dat is fantastisch.

[herry]

what a country is Holland? the contry which attracts many people from the third word countries? or it is just men and women in here are so attractive for them?:biggrin:
today in the morning(actually afternoon) i recieved call from a one, with whom i had made acguaintance during i had been going to integration curses, as it was longer than one year ago, it was very difficult for me to recognaze, who was him.
well he is man, from pakistan, and he is marry to women with netherlads nationalitet(she is not real dutch)...and he all time was complaing that he could not live with her, but she was his sponsor, and without her he would be kicked out of holland, in 24 hours time, because that time he was not married to her for 3 years yet, and he was dependant...for now i guess he stayed here for long enough to get out from her, but he meet another problem; the place to live and as a smart guy, he recall that he knew me, and my appartament is big enough to fit in one more person, especially himself. so he called me and asking for advise and complaing that his wife was bitch, and she was not allowed him..even to go out or meet new people, or even talk to them and so on, so on...what a bullshit.:scratch_one-s_head:
what i am writting this for? i simply want to find out your opinion on this matter, because i think it is the point of many western men not to get marry with eastern europian women, the point is no one would like to be used in such way, just played of with word "love'', for someone profits. i think it is disgusting. ah, forget to say that few months ago this person, whom mentioned above, called me and said how much he liked me from the first day he saw me, and i did, of course, believe any single word he said...yeah sure, if i were stupid enough i would.:biggrin:

[statajack]

I see things quite clearly here -

This bloke, and anybody else in a similar position has two choices. Either he lives with the consequences of what he voluntarily set in motion, or f*ck off back to Pakistan. Simple.

Anna - is this bloke trying to get you to be his sponsor?

[herry]

Anna - is this bloke trying to get you to be his sponsor? No, it seems he trying to get place to live, and for this he is pretending to be victim of abuse.:)

[herry]

when you live in the netherlads longet than 3 years, in merrige, you do not need sponsor any longer, as you already got independant stay permit, and moreover you have right to apply for naturalization.
what i did actually mean by posting this tread is that; we had somesort of people on our planet, whom will be trying to use others in any possible way, and than throw them away, as they not longer needed. and how do you feel about them?

[statajack]

when you live in the netherlads longet than 3 years, in merrige, you do not need sponsor any longer, as you already got independant stay permit, and moreover you have right to apply for naturalization.
what i did actually mean by posting this tread is that; we had somesort of people on our planet, whom will be trying to use others in any possible way, and than throw them away, as they not longer needed. and how do you feel about them?

How do I feel about them? - I wouldn't p*ss on them if they were on fire.

[slkas]

It is a human condition which is a function of population density. OR it is an attitude quite common with the people of that subcontinent. But, I think that the attitude is pervasive with all humans. It is common to try to use someone for your own goals if you have been successful using other people in the past.

[herry]

It is common to try to use someone for your own goals if you have been successful using other people in the past.I presume it is common to try to use someone....even if you have not any experiances of that in the past.
it is one of darkest side of human nature.:superstition: :)

[katerina83]

curious to ask the admin. if this subject about the abuse of humans in connection to immigration rules was initiated by any authority, or is that the point of personal attitude?

The activity aimed at using people in the past or in the future is actually to be discussed by police and other authorities involved in protecting the human rights, such as in Netherlands - IND and Politie. Does the author who visits integration course in Holland know anything about the principles of work in these governmental entities , and would you like to discuss how deep are their investigations to make their conclusions about the abuse and if abuse actually had happened. Or do we also discuss here how easy it is to trick Dutch police and IND?

Who's judgment about this certain guy from Pakistan is supposed to be the right
and how far can someone go talking his personal ideas about the others?
Would we like to inform IND and be the subject of investigation for smaad and leugens?

would you like as admin to invite this pakistan guy, his contact details are available, by some chance I also go to integration courses here and let him tell what he knows , lets say about her Hairy? I do believe if someone wants to make a point, this specific someone needs to be responsible for making this point, thus be ready to have objection and be compromised with facts

Pls,check the spelling before posting..for not native Ukraine speakers can be a struggle to go through this discussion in English. The Man from Pakistan didnt understand the idea of the initial post..but he is very curious

Met vriendelijke groet, :)

[krevedko]

Just shows that as soon as you make dope legal people start abusing it )))