Russia Prefers Obama Administration

[Neilikka]

The Georgia conflict has reduced hopes that a Barack Obama presidency could help mend U.S.-Russian ties, but the Democratic candidate would still be a better partner for Moscow than his Republican rival, John McCain, a senior lawmaker said.

Konstantin Kosachyov, head of the State Duma's International Affairs Committee, said the fact that Obama's stance on Russia has moved closer to that of McCain's since the war with Georgia would complicate relations with the next U.S. administration.

"Both Obama and McCain took a very hard stance … and this will certainly be an abiding factor for developing ties with Russia for any winner of this race," Kosachyov said in an interview last week at his office in the Duma.

Both candidates assailed Russia in their debate last Tuesday, with Obama saying Moscow had engaged in "evil" behavior in the war with Georgia over South Ossetia and McCain saying Russia was "maybe" an evil empire.

Kosachyov, also a senior official in the pro-Kremlin party United Russia, said that before the latest deterioration of U.S.-Russian ties, driven by events in the Caucasus, he was convinced that Obama would be the better partner for the Kremlin.

This conclusion had more to do with the candidates' biographies than their respective parties, Kosachyov said. There is "no big difference" between Democrats and Republicans when it comes to international relations, he said.

Obama's lack of foreign policy experience might actually be an advantage, Kosachyov said. McCain's political career began during the Cold War, while Obama was free of such a historical mindset and could take a fresh approach at rebuilding U.S.-Russian ties, he said.

"As a politician, McCain's formative years were during the standoff with the Soviet threat," Kosachyov said. "He still does not see a substantial difference between the Soviet Union and modern Russia."

Both McCain and Obama have repeatedly said they have no desire for a new Cold War.

Kosachyov also said Obama's softer stance on the planned U.S. missile-defense system in Eastern Europe makes him Russia's preferred candidate.

The key problem in U.S.-Russian relations is the absence of any real business interests, which act as an "insurance policy" in international relations, Kosachyov said. "In the United States, nobody is afraid of destroying ties with Russia," he said.

Russian-British relations have also come under increasing strain in recent years, though top officials in both countries have highlighted their burgeoning trade ties as an example that countries can do business despite political disputes.

Kosachyov praised the country's relations with European countries such as Germany and France, with which Russia has deeper business ties than the United States.

Moscow, however, will work with whoever wins the Nov. 4 U.S. presidential election, Kosachyov said. Both candidates need "to understand that it is necessary to work with Russia," he said.

Moscow Times

[Lucker]

We have got him , Bella .
Providing the Racists don't rear their ugly heads in the home straight , it is as good as won already .
I don't imagine anyone but a moron would vote Republican with Palin as a potential Vice President .
That would be a drowning final insult to an already beleagured nation .

[Voobrazheniye]

Well... of course the Russian government (and most every other government) would rather see a U.S. president whom they can walk all over. In Obamessiah, they MUST be seeing the second coming of Jimmy Carter.

[beezneesman]

Well... of course the Russian government (and most every other government) would rather see a U.S. president whom they can walk all over. In Obamessiah, they MUST be seeing the second coming of Jimmy Carter.

Or paradoxically if Obama wins he may feel he needs to establish his credentials with the military industrial complex and provide a new diversion for the serfs by invading somewhere;)

[alpine-frolic]

Neilik, russians will prefer Obama, but how many will vote for him?

[Voobrazheniye]

Or paradoxically if Obama wins he may feel he needs to establish his credentials with the military industrial complex and provide a new diversion for the serfs by invading somewhere;)

Possibly, but I think the only side with which he is interested in establishing - or enhancing - his credentials is the far left. Considering the left's complete meltdown over Bush's follies, Obama really can't go there. There would be absolutely no scenario in which he could justify military action to the far left hands that feed him. If he did cross them, he would lose everything.

It seems to me, the veritable expert that I am (at something, but not necessarily this), that an Obama administration becomes infinitely less capable of taking any kind of action than the alternatives (even Hillary). By his political pedigree and the base of his support, he is expected to be a "negotiator" (codeword for appeaser) and not someone who will seriously contemplate military action. The rest of the world will know this and will not take him seriously. He will not be able to "negotiate" from any position of strength, because the rest of the world knows that he won't (and can't) actually do anything.

Interesting dilemma, but one which I hope the U.S. will not have to face.

[alpine-frolic]

Or paradoxically if Obama wins he may feel he needs to establish his credentials with the military industrial complex and provide a new diversion for the serfs by invading somewhere;)
Why do you say "if..."
Whip a horse and he will go faster and longer until the final line. That's just McCain is doing.
( not forgetting blacks are the best runners, show them a carrott)

[beezneesman]

Why do you say "if..."


I say 'If...' because I actually believe it is crazy to predict the outcome of any election (particularly if you are going to be emphatic about it). IMO there are simply too many variables in elections.

Personally I don't care who wins because it will still be the same old horseshit from whoever wins it.

[kentuckydan]

We have got him , Bella .
Providing the Racists don't rear their ugly heads in the home straight , it is as good as won already .
I don't imagine anyone but a moron would vote Republican with Palin as a potential Vice President .
That would be a drowning final insult to an already beleagured nation .

The Polls and the Media are trumpeting the same message as they did fo Kerry about this time 4 years ago and the only Racist to rear it's ugly head in this election so far has been
the man who was the Spiritual Adviser for Obama these last 2o years.

[Lucker]

It's excellent to see Mr Smutty clearly rattled.

[kentuckydan]

It's excellent to see Mr Smutty clearly rattled.


I have been puzzled about your incessant support of Obama, then I ran accross the following information and everything made sense :faint:


Breath-gasms for Obama!
(http://www.cassyfiano.com/2008/10/breath-gasms-for-obama)


The O’s for Obama campaign is a two-part series of events that will take place in San Francisco and streamed globally to an online community of participants. The vision for these events is to rally behind Presidential hopeful, Barack Obama and to celebrate his victory as the next President of the United States.

O’s for Obama is the brainchild of Destin Gerek, the Erotic Rockstar (www.EroticRockstar.com). His vision is to guide participants into a simultaneous group energetic breath-gasm that happens simultaneously around the world.
Participants will be guided into using breath, sound, and movement to access their erotic energy, raise its vibration, and circulate it throughout their entire bodies, culminating in a simultaneous group energetic breath-gasm. Sound too good to be true? Come and experience it for yourself!


We will be using the high energetic state to set a dual intention out into the universe. First, that of Obama being winning the general election and becoming the next president of the United States. Second, each individual’s own vision of the world that they want to be part of creating. This second intention will be placed out into the universe along with every other participant’s second intention, creating a collective vision larger and more powerful than that which any single one of us could have created alone.

This unique experience will unfold into an all-night dance party filled with sensual performances and DJs dropping sexy beats.



You just CAN'T fabricate anything to match the bizarre things these folks come up with.

[Lucker]

Mr Smutty
Just be careful you are not added to our list .
A world linked exhalation could destroy you , if I gave the word -- Melt Smutty into Butty .

[bucksbunny]

I say 'If...' because I actually believe it is crazy to predict the outcome of any election (particularly if you are going to be emphatic about it). IMO there are simply too many variables in elections.

Personally I don't care who wins because it will still be the same old horseshit from whoever wins it.

I could add that the If is indeed needed to be mentionned..Obama first task will have to stay alive the first year ..Looking to american history and the relation the american poeple have with black leaders it seems an isue.

BB

[Voobrazheniye]

I could add that the If is indeed needed to be mentionned..Obama first task will have to stay alive the first year ..Looking to american history and the relation the american poeple have with black leaders it seems an isue.

BB

You know... it is getting quite tiring to see you CONSTANTLY suggest that Americans are just a bunch of murdering racists. Quite tiring, indeed.

[Sveta's Hero]

Agreed. If America was this big racist country, then tell me how a black man could be sitting in the position he is now, and possibly be the next president of the United States of America? Sure racism does exsist, but clearly not as much as some would like to believe. The proof is right in front of you.

[bucksbunny]

You know... it is getting quite tiring to see you CONSTANTLY suggest that Americans are just a bunch of murdering racists. Quite tiring, indeed.

dear sir ,

I would concider your critics if you can produce one post where i have claimed before that the US is a racist country.


yours

BB

[bucksbunny]

Paul I am proud that obama came so far...It just a justified fear wich I express ..do you really feel I am far out?

BB

[bucksbunny]

Plus I didn t even claimed now that the Us is a racist country.

BB

[Voobrazheniye]

dear sir ,

I would concider your critics if you can produce one post where i have claimed before that the US is a racist country.


yours

BB

Lavuun, you have written a number of times in the past that if Obama is elected, he will be killed within a year by angry white racists. This is at least the third or fourth time you have suggested this. To be honest, I just don't have the time to go searching through all the threads to find the posts, but I am sure that others can recall this as well.

And heck yes... America DOES have a strong and sorry history - and present - of racism; it is not something to be proud of at all, but it has certainly improved a LOT in the past half century. But those who are intellectually honest would be willing to admit that EVERY country, every nationality is racist to one extent or another. Some much, much worse than the U.S.

[Voobrazheniye]

Paul I am proud that obama came so far...It just a justified fear wich I express ..do you really feel I am far out?

BB

Every president risks death. There are certainly PLENTY of people who would have killed Bush by now if they could have gotten to him. But the secret service has learned valuable lessons since the days of Kennedy and even Reagan. It might be easier to steal gold from Fort Knox than to get at the president these days.

[bucksbunny]

Lavuun, you have written a number of times in the past that if Obama is elected, he will be killed within a year by angry white racists. This is at least the third or fourth time you have suggested this. To be honest, I just don't have the time to go searching through all the threads to find the posts, but I am sure that others can recall this as well.

And heck yes... America DOES have a strong and sorry history - and present - of racism; it is not something to be proud of at all, but it has certainly improved a LOT in the past half century. But those who are intellectually would be willing to admit that EVERY country, every nationality is racist to one extent or another. Some much, much worse than the U.S.

I did not find a show me...I am critical to american way in foreign policies...But I use now the word is and not was .. so I can see america moving ...But I am still sure that security will be an isue for obama..and thats maybe the case for every president ..I would not like a first collored american president get murderred it can bring a big tumoil in the world...I feel we dont need that.


BB

[Sveta's Hero]

Paul I am proud that obama came so far...It just a justified fear wich I express ..do you really feel I am far out?

BB


Actually, I do not feel you are too far out on this subject. I understand your fear of something like that happening, but security is incredibly important and he will be protected for sure if he becomes president. The men in the secret service are very brave and will use their own bodies to protect a president from bullets.
Any president can be a target for crazy people that want to do them harm, regardless of color.

[dzerassa]

"Russia Prefers Obama Administration"


Does "russia" here means "russian politicians"? 'cause russian people don't care i think

[Gabbibo]

both, Obama and McCain has the same view about Russia - USA is the leading country

nothing changed:(

[dzerassa]

both, Obama and McCain has the same view about Russia - USA is the leading country

nothing changed:(

mccain has better view as paulin can see russia from her window :)

[Sveta's Hero]

"Russia Prefers Obama Administration"


Does "russia" here means "russian politicians"? 'cause russian people don't care i think


Exactly, and Americans don't care about who Russia wants to win the election.

[Gabbibo]

mccain has better view as paulin can see russia from her window :)

Nonna, dont trust any politics
better view is a simple trick to win elections

people chose american president and after few years he ordered to distroy vietnam, balcans or irak

[alpine-frolic]

Actually, I do not feel you are too far out on this subject. I understand your fear of something like that happening, but security is incredibly important and he will be protected for sure if he becomes president. The men in the secret service are very brave and will use their own bodies to protect a president from bullets.



Like they did for Kennedy.

[dzerassa]

Exactly, and Americans don't care about who Russia wants to win the election.

this "russia wants" makes me wonder what it means? can u say that australia wants or france wants or geromany wants? what does it mean?

[Sveta's Hero]

Like they did for Kennedy.


Much has changed in the last 40+ years since the Kennedy assasination. He was the last US president to ever ride in an open roof car.

[Sveta's Hero]

this "russia wants" makes me wonder what it means? can u say that australia wants or france wants or geromany wants? what does it mean?

I'm sorry, I used the wrong word. I meant to use the word "prefers". And I can't say who other countries "prefer", but this article says it.

[Gabbibo]

most germans prefer Obama, i think this is after Obama visited Berlin
he was meeted like a real USA president

was a little bit funny for me:becky:

[dzerassa]

I'm sorry, I used the wrong word. I meant to use the word "prefers". And I can't say who other countries "prefer", but this article says it.

Paul, my point is that u can't say that "a country" prefers this or that candidate to win in america at least u can hardly say it about russia as most of russians look at it like a sport race but they hardly "prefer" mccain or obama simply 'cause they don'tt care. Politicians probably have their preferences but it's not easy to sort out who has the majority among russian politicians.
to me personally they look the same but choosing between paulin and biden as possible preisdents paulin is definately a wrong candidate. she can be probably a good mayor of a small twon or even state but to run a superpower like usa...

[RiverRock]

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4606/24205664fm5.jpg


Yeah, What is the deal with Germany? Their reception of Obama was disturbing. Germany has been spewing so much hatred of America, much worse than even Russian nationalists, but they love Obama :hmm: Who does that make Americans want to vote for?


[QUOTE] "Germany's Anti-American Neurosis"

A neurotic obsession is like a bone stuck in your throat. You can't swallow it and you can't spit it out. That is how the German media are hooked on America. It doesn't look quite sane.
For Americans, the best web guide to the German media is davids medienkritik. (David's media critique).

What you find out on this passionately written site, devoted to fighting anti-American hatred, is that something very weird is going on between the Lowlands and Poland. Something neurotic, in tens of millions of minds. And while we know that you can't always generalize from media madness to ordinary people, we also know that the media swing a huge weight of influence. So when the German Organs of Propaganda go weird and hateful, get ready to worry. Really.

The examples of obsessive anti-Americanism are all over big German news magazines like Spiegel and Stern. For instance,

1. The Statue of Liberty with a death's head instead of the Romantic goddess of liberty.

2. A close-up of the American flag covered with "BLUT FÜR ÖL".

3. George Bush in front of a giant black cross, "A MISSION FROM GOD."

4. A horrible Abu Ghraib figure in black garb, headlined "THE TORTURERS OF BAGHDAD."

5. A sadistic-looking Rambo muscle man on the cover, emblazoned "OPERATION RAMBO --- The Secret Troops of the USA."

This is the mainstream press in Germany. In other words%2

[dzerassa]

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4606/24205664fm5.jpg


Yeah, What is the deal with Germany? Their reception of Obama was disturbing. Germany has been spewing so much hatred of America much worse than even Russia but they love Obama :hmm: Who does that make Americans want to vote for?

isn't it good if an american leader can create another impression of your country than say bush?

u know russia had crisis in relations with america when kennedy was president but i think most of russians will name him and roosvelt as most respected by russians. is it bad?

i just listened to what palin was saying about relations with russia in terms of location of alayska. super! she could simply say it was a joke but when interviewed by a woman-jornalist she insisted that alayska' location gives her some knowledge of foerign policy. i think she is a nice woman but not a president. hillary could definately be better though to me she seemed articial like many politicians though.

[RiverRock]

Yes, it would be nice to have a president to improve relations with the world. But that shouldn't be a reason to vote for our leader. Europe does not have America's best interest in mind when they praise Obama. With Allies like France and Germany, who needs enemies.

Did I ever say how much I like the writing of Thomas Jefferon?

“I have ever deemed it fundamental for the United States never to take active part in the quarrels of Europe. Their political interests are entirely distinct from ours. Their mutual jealousies, their balance of power, their complicated alliances, their forms and principles of government, are all foreign to us. They are nations of eternal war. All their energies are expended in the destruction of the labor, property and lives of their people.” (Thomas Jefferson, to James Monroe year 1823.)

[RiverRock]

dzerassa: i think she is a nice woman but not a president. hillary could definately be better though to me she seemed articial like many politicians though.

I agree. She is not who I would choose as the leader of the entire U.S.A.

However, she is a real person and I know where she stands on everything. She doesn't have a hidden agenda. I know she does love America, won't try to take upsurp any of the bill of rights from the constitution, and will try to fight corruption unless she is intimidated away from it by the powers that be.

The only thing to worry about if Palin became president, would be her control of the entire U.S. military. I hope she would not make any hasty decisions.

Though, I think she would rely heavily on input from top ranking military officers. Which is a good thing, b/c they almost always are more sensible and reasonable than a lot of the presidents of late.

[Voobrazheniye]

I agree. She is not who I would choose as the leader of the entire U.S.A.

However, she is a real person and I know where she stands on everything. She doesn't have a hidden agenda. I know she does love America, won't try to take upsurp any of the bill of rights from the constitution, and will try to fight corruption unless she is intimidated away from it by the powers that be.

The only thing to worry about if Palin became president, would be her control of the entire U.S. military. I hope she would not make any hasty decisions.

Though, I think she would rely heavily on input from top ranking military officers. Which is a good thing, b/c they almost always are more sensible and reasonable than a lot of the presidents of late.



I like Gov. Palin. But I also would not be entirely comfortable with her as president. Still, I would MUCH rather have even her as president than any socialist.

But the person who I REALLY wanted to see run for president (since about 2002) will be sitting on the sideline. This is one of the smartest, coolest and most capable people in government - someone who COULD appeal to a very wide cross-section of the American public.

Unfortunately, this person's reputation has been tarnished by high-level service to the Bush administration, where this person's real talent and knowledge - especially on foreign affairs - were supressed to a great extent by Bush and Cheney, who seemed to force this person into a "messenger" role rather than actually listening and following this person's advice.

Perhaps in 2012 or 2016, after returning to the private sector for a while, wrting a book or two, and letting time erase some of the Bush stench, this person will be able to reemerge and do great things.

Can you guess who it is?

[huney]

But the person who I REALLY wanted to see run for president (since about 2002) will be sitting on the sideline. This is one of the smartest, coolest and most capable people in government - someone who COULD appeal to a very wide cross-section of the American public.

Unfortunately, this person's reputation has been tarnished by high-level service to the Bush administration, where this person's real talent and knowledge - especially on foreign affairs - were supressed to a great extent by Bush and Cheney, who seemed to force this person into a "messenger" role rather than actually listening and following this person's advice.

Perhaps in 2012 or 2016, after returning to the private sector for a while, wrting a book or two, and letting time erase some of the Bush stench, this person will be able to reemerge and do great things.

Can you guess who it is?

Not Condoleezza Rice, please. Better Colin Powell.

However, when/if she publishes a book expressing her opinions rather than those of her masters I could change my mind. Right now I don't think we know who she really is.

[kentuckydan]

Not Condoleezza Rice, please. Better Colin Powell.

However, when/if she publishes a book expressing her opinions rather than those of her masters I could change my mind. Right now I don't think we know who she really is.

Yes since it is her job to represent the policy of the Administration, rather than formulate her own.

You seem to imply some disdain for a Civil Servant doing their job in the manner they are Constitutionaly bound to.

[huney]

Yes since it is her job to represent the policy of the Administration, rather than formulate her own.

You seem to imply some disdain for a Civil Servant doing their job in the manner they are Constitutionaly bound to.

The role of Secretary of State is well defined in the Constitution and I believe she has acted accordingly in that role. I take issue with her performance as National Security Adviser. She as much as anyone was responsible for the failure of the White House to take seriously warnings from the intelligence community on al-Qaeda prior to 9/11. She suppressed contrary views, including those of Secretary Powell, in the meetings leading up to the invasion of Iraq. Her support for the agenda of Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz and opposition to Powell played a significant role in the way in which the war in Iraq has been conducted.

[sliver]

both, Obama and McCain has the same view about Russia - USA is the leading country

nothing changed:(

i agree. i think a lot depends on how flexible brains the candidate has to lead u.s. following the current situation, not ideology or other bull. obama is much better in that.
mccain is too old and not well. would you like to face acting president palin? it's nightmare for u.s. and the world :lol: some say: 'great! then u.s. will dissapear in black hole fo sure'

as for me i wouldn't vote for neither one nor another. one of obama advisers has been zbigniew brzeziński (збигнев бжезинский). and every russian knows that this smart pole never loved russia (it's smooth-spoken)).

[bucksbunny]

dont forget that an american democrat is still to our vieuws a guy from th eright.

bb

[alpine-frolic]

Even JM LePen looks like an ultraliberal beside Obama.

[Calibret]

If Russia prefers Obama then I think we should send
him there.

[RiverRock]

bucksbunny: dont forget that an american democrat is still to our views a guy from the right.

Is Obama considered on the right in Europe? :lol: If so that is sad.
I wish all the people from the far left would go to Europe and stay there. They would feel much more at home in Belgium, apparently.


Europe’s Philosophy of Failure (http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4095)

[bucksbunny]

amen let it be.

[Voobrazheniye]

... not ideology or other bull. obama is much better in that.


Tanya, do you honestly believe that Obama is NOT an ideologue? Or that he is not awash in the bull of his side? If so, then you really don't understand him. He is the consumate far-left, socialist, ideologue.

Just because you might agree with a politician's views (or with most of them) does not mean that he or she is NOT an ideologue and not full of bull. And being pinned to an ideology is not the sole province of the right... not by a long shot.

One of the problems in American politics is that the choices we get are almost always people who care more about their ideology - be it left or right - than about what really is best for the whole of the country. Even if he is elected, Obama will be ideologically out of step with a majority of the country. But if he is able - and with strong majorities in both houses of Congress, he probably will be - he will force his ideology (and his bull) on the nation.

[sliver]

voobr,
no, i don't know obama and didn't say that obama 'is NOT an ideologue', i said that to my mind he has more flexible brains. ability to be flexible and mobile in way of thinking is better and helps to fix problems. in fact your country needs a good pragmatic manager more than a good politician, IMHO. the last u.s. administration has been the worst and the greatest failure. and condie did a lot for that. sometimes it's very useful to admit own mistakes and try to change directions. seems to me obama can.. i cannot be sure though. anyway this administration on the contrary did deepen problems.

[Voobrazheniye]

voobr,
no, i don't know obama and didn't say that obama 'is NOT an ideologue', i said that to my mind he has more flexible brains. ability to be flexible and mobile in way of thinking is better and helps to fix problems. in fact your country needs a good pragmatic manager more than a good politician, IMHO. the last u.s. administration has been the worst and the greatest failure. and condie did a lot for that. sometimes it's very useful to admit own mistakes and try to change directions. seems to me obama can.. i cannot be sure though. anyway this administration on the contrary did deepen problems.

I agree with you 100 percent... the Bush administration has been a disaster - even worse than Clinton, which was pretty bad. Keep in mind, however, that bad situations are not entirely the fault of the administration; the Congress is usually just as culpable (or more so) for problems and sometimes more worthy of praise when things go right.

But I do believe that the trend of "bad presidents" will continue, and become even WORSE if Obama is elected. The combination of his far-left ideology, his complete lack of qualification, and his empty resume will spell disaster even worse than Bush....

... imho, of course. ;)

[sliver]

I agree with you 100 percent... the Bush administration has been a disaster - even worse than Clinton, which was pretty bad. Keep in mind, however, that bad situations are not entirely the fault of the administration; the Congress is usually just as culpable (or more so) for problems and sometimes more worthy of praise when things go right.

But I do believe that the trend of "bad presidents" will continue, and become even WORSE if Obama is elected. The combination of his far-left ideology, his complete lack of qualification, and his empty resume will spell disaster even worse than Bush....

... imho, of course. ;)
идеи могут быть обезврежены только идеями (с)
'other' ideas render harmless ideas
lack of qualification? do you use the favorite argument of mccain?!? what about yours?
being smart isn't qualification at all.. and qualification isn't equal being smart
personally for me former captive agressive mccain & palin are associated with war. they really can and rather easily
obama cannot. i don't see him such way.. just my feeling
btw, europe chooses obama. perhaps, for them mccain smells war on our continent too.

[bucksbunny]

идеи могут быть обезврежены только идеями (с)
'other' ideas render harmless ideas
lack of qualification? do you use the favorite argument of mccain?!? what about yours?
being smart isn't qualification at all.. and qualification isn't equal being smart
personally for me former captive agressive mccain & palin are associated with war. they really can and rather easily
obama cannot. i don't see him such way.. just my feeling
btw, europe chooses obama. perhaps, for them mccain smells war on our continent too.

Mc caine is a hopeless right wing politician knowing he loose and now try to scarre citizens..old right wing sytem from all countries of the world.


BB

[Hoopy]

I watched some of the debate and they kept talking about Joe the plumber from Idaho,I thought Idaho was a state with cowboys so that would make him a cowboy plumber :lol:

[kentuckydan]

I watched some of the debate and they kept talking about Joe the plumber from Idaho,I thought Idaho was a state with cowboys so that would make him a cowboy plumber :lol:

He's from Toledo, Ohio not Idaho.

No big deal as I have NO idea what the subregions of the UK are, I can't fault you for that mistake

[dzerassa]

yesterday i watched their debates on cnn. can't say anything about the prograns, i nderstood nothing except that both will cut taxes for 95% of working americans :) but
i think that women will vote for obama. he gives impression of a very smart man and u know intellect is one of the most attractive things in men :)
besides he seems to be more profound (don't know if it's a right word) and less theatrical or probably he is just such a good actor that his play doesn't seem false :)