Long Distance Courtship

[disc999golfer999]

So the news with me. I just got back from Dnepropetrovsk Ukraine. (My picture with Lennin)
I was corresponding with a woman I met online.
I spent 1 week there to meet with 1 woman. She was committed to my trip and making that a success. We watched movies, went to the theater, played tennis and hung out together. It was enough time to see most of the sights in the small city.

I got 1 peck on the lips as I am leaving. It was strange because I go travel 15,000 miles to meet this girl. On my last day she meets me at 12:30 pm in the afternoon as she had to run some errands in the morning. I am to leave at 3pm that day. So she drops me off at 2pm because I need to pack and is coming back at 3pm. At 2:30 my driver calls says they won't be there till 4pm. The girl I met didn't come back until 4pm with the driver. I think she would have come and hung out with me at 3pm if she was interested in me. Maybe she was being polite. After I get back I ask her where do we go from here. She explains that she can go traveling to other countries than Ukraine like Turkey, Egypt, Thailand and the Bahamas.

I am left with the feeling that she wants a long courtship before making a decision. I am not sure if she has decided on me or not. I know some agencies pay the girls to go on dates with the men. I am not sure of her intent. I hope she is just undecided. Here I am after the meeting. I don't know where I stand. If I try to visit the same girl I may not be anywhere closer to my goal after the 2nd meeting. Also in 3 months everything changes and she could already meet someone else and get ready to settle down with that person.

How do people see the courtship process with a potential foreign husband? What are the differences?

For me a major difference is the courtship process. It is much shorter. A person needs to make a decision to marry and be with that person. If I meet a woman in the same city I live the courtship process can take years and there is no rush. If I go to a foreign country on a visit for 1 week then that is all the time for courtship. (I realize the best thing to do is to move to the foreign country and live for several years while I get to know a woman. That is not a realistic option.).

How do people see the process of building relations in this environment? I know many woman want to take months and months for this courtship process to work? For me the process works this way. I go to visit her in her home country. After some days together we decide to make it work. After my departure we work toward getting a K-1 visa. Then after she arrives we continue our courtship process and after 1 month or 6 weeks we marry and live happily ever after.

What should I be doing different? (In 2009 I traveled to Kiev and met several women but that didn't turn up any positive results.)

[zforz]

dear man ,

you are couragious and find it pitty that girl didnt understood your feeling...she clearly tells you she isnt ready and want to look elswhere. sad to see that for you.some of them are ready to be the guide for more than one man somtimes its even a big club.

i never travel to the girls country . now she knows only whats in your lugage and you know a country where you arent going to live. what a waist.

MY COMPASSION TO YOU;

LAVUUN

[jimsan]

I aint gonna hang if she won't let me bang............:biggrin:

[Gabber]

The end result is that you will be making a decision based on a few trips, email and chat as opposed to a year or two of dating in your hometown. It's a risk. Works for some, disaster for others

[Gabber]

we have 3 guys here with successful marriages via the same route you are taking. Other members have gone and not been lucky, i.e. as in lifetime partner.

In our hometowns we can date and breakup after a few months (maybe) and the cost is insignificant other than hurt feelings. Dating a woman from eastern europe is not inexpensive and not for the weak of heart or pocketbook. It's a crapshoot discgolfer999 and you may consider saving your pennies for golf vacations as opposed to peck on the cheeks. My opinion only.

[Ambassador]

How do people see the process of building relations in this environment? I know many woman want to take months and months for this courtship process to work? For me the process works this way. I go to visit her in her home country. After some days together we decide to make it work. After my departure we work toward getting a K-1 visa. Then after she arrives we continue our courtship process and after 1 month or 6 weeks we marry and live happily ever after.

What should I be doing different? (In 2009 I traveled to Kiev and met several women but that didn't turn up any positive results.)

its called feeding from both sides ... only than it can be real
You must be a good listener needs only few words to understand.

sometimes its better use less words and handle on feeling what is or not is ..

[Lampa]

disc99999999999,

how long have you been looking for love"from RUSSIA" online?How many matches have led to first dates?How many matches have led to relationships? Why you are still single ?What do you think?cs you are smart as hell? hmmmmm ..hope you are beginning to see the problem in your self . Enjoy your freedom for as long as you can.

[Gabber]

disc99999999999,

how long have you been looking for love"from RUSSIA" online?How many matches have led to first dates?How many matches have led to relationships? Why you are still single ?What do you think?cs you are smart as hell? hmmmmm ..hope you are beginning to see the problem in your self . Enjoy your freedom for as long as you can.

how can you assume the problem is with him? How many boyfriends did you have in your life before you got married (or will marry)? Only one?

Maybe disc is being cautious or maybe the women he has met did not like him; either way it's his life and he can be thankful he has not married someone just for the sake of completing a process.

[saprosky]

I met several russian women and even an ukrainian and still single. Why?

Because I didnt like some of them and the rest probably didnt like me. But I am still friend with many of them and we meet always we can (In russia or here).

So, where is the problem?? Do you need to get married with first person you meet ??? :scratch_one-s_head:

[Lampa]

People, I was asking disc999 something. Not you , Gabber , or you, Saprosky. I know why I am asking that question.

[yankee]

I met several russian women and even an ukrainian and still single. Why?

Because I didnt like some of them and the rest probably didnt like me. But I am still friend with many of them and we meet always we can (In russia or here).

So, where is the problem?? Do you need to get married with first person you meet ??? :scratch_one-s_head:

I did!:biggrin:

[sparkle]

I aint gonna hang if she won't let me bang............:biggrin:

HAHAHAHA good for you Jimbo :lol2:

I'm a realist, looks to me, like definite REJECT jobby :biggrin:

[sparkle]

I met several russian women and even an ukrainian and still single. Why?

Because I didnt like some of them and the rest probably didnt like me. But I am still friend with many of them and we meet always we can (In russia or here).

So, where is the problem?? Do you need to get married with first person you meet ??? :scratch_one-s_head:

Only one problem here, the VAST majority of Ukrain/Russian woman, do not understand, FRIENDSHIP. :Laie_99:

[saprosky]

I did!:biggrin:

And still alive to explain it :biggrin:

[sparkle]

I look at it this way...all the time your courting, things are magic, all the time you are living together, things are magic.
Marriage, is the top of the mountain, from the top, there is only one way to go, look at all these sites :Hyron_03::grin:

[yankee]

I look at it this way...all the time your courting, things are magic, all the time you are living together, things are magic.
Marriage, is the top of the mountain, from the top, there is only one way to go, look at all these sites :Hyron_03::grin:

I disagree, marriage is really just a beginning. If, as you say, it is the begining of the end, I am sorry for you. It seems as if you are only interested in lust not love.

[sparkle]

I disagree, marriage is really just a beginning. If, as you say, it is the begining of the end, I am sorry for you. It seems as if you are only interested in lust not love.


How true I wish that is, at my age, it is more a companionship/friendship thing. Without lust, there is no love.

Thanks for your concern, I am very happy and content, with my life the way it is. Lust/sex, is great, but, I am very choosey, and, there is so much more to life :dance3:

[rainy-day]

I think there is not a specific "recipe" for finding love and for making a successful relationship. What worked for some people will not work for others.

I admire your courage, really, and I can assure you that as long as you don't give up and you're still going for what you want there are big chances for you to find that happiness you're looking for.

still...our biggest mistake is that sometimes we have too high expectations and that's why we end up being disappointed.
hang on, you're going to be fine and with that girl I think you should ask her straight what she wants. you'll save a lot of time, thoughts and energy. I've always said that an uncertain thing is worse than every certain thing, no matter how bad this certain may be.

[Ambassador]

"I've never fooled anyone. I've let people fool themselves. They didn't bother to find out who and what I was. Instead they would invent a character for me. I wouldn't argue with them. They were obviously loving somebody i wasn't."

it love by internet :scratch_one-s_head::umnik:

[disc999golfer999]

disc99999999999,

how long have you been looking for love"from RUSSIA" online?How many matches have led to first dates?How many matches have led to relationships? Why you are still single ?What do you think?cs you are smart as hell? hmmmmm ..hope you are beginning to see the problem in your self . Enjoy your freedom for as long as you can.

I first traveled to Russia in 1996, and again in 1999. I sponsored a woman in 2000 that I sent you a private message about.

Why am I still single? I am not into game playing. When I see someone who plays games I go the other way. A lot of women don't play games either. I need to find one like that.

Maybe I can find someone like you and we can enjoy FREEDOM together!

[Koshka]

"I've never fooled anyone. I've let people fool themselves. They didn't bother to find out who and what I was. Instead they would invent a character for me. I wouldn't argue with them. They were obviously loving somebody i wasn't."

it love by internet :scratch_one-s_head::umnik:

There is a quotation by Marilyn Monroe

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/109467

[Ambassador]

There is a quotation by Marilyn Monroe

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/109467

I wouldn't argue with fool