Industry Size Of The Mail Order Bride Business

[Sarah]

The industry size of mail order brides has changed a lot from the early years when it started. In the 21st century, it has transformed into a large scale business. Internet has revolutionized the business of mail order brides. The size of mail order bride industry is on an ever increasing spree with the USA having over 200 mail order bride agencies.

According to the Federal News Service, there were around 100 mail order bride agencies in the USA 10 years back. However, during this period, the industry size increased to encompass around 200 agencies. In fact, Internet has contributed a lot in the increase in size of this business, so that now it is being reckoned as an industry. In reality, an agency sells a catalogue containing 320 photos of girls at a price of $35. When you enter a website to find mail order brides, you have to access their addresses. To be able to do so, you need to pay a certain amount. If you become a member of such a website it will charge anything between $79 and $99. Hence, if men continue to do this, they contribute in increasing the size as well as turnover of this trade.

The mail order bride industry has a huge turnover rate with the business scams also contributing to the profit. It has turned into a multi million dollar industry with the size of business ever increasing. Many countries like the USA have regulated laws regarding this trade. On the other hand, countries like Canada do not have any such laws to control this booming trade thereby letting it expand and garner profit. Sometimes the illegal tie-up between this industry and the trafficking business also contribute in the increased size and profits.

President of Cherry Blossoms, an agency, vouches that this is a highly profitable business, since they serve at least 1000 men per month who pay around $200 each. Thus, we can definitely make out the huge figure of money involved in this industry with 200 such agencies.

[Sarah]

With all my respect to everybody on this site, I wish you all - looking for good permanent relationship - to put your neck into that loop around your neck (sorry about this black humor).
I have a question to those looking for somebody -
you stay on LL, your search new profiles every day, you write letters and you pay money for it, probably. Then you travel 100000 miles away (which is again costly) to meet somebody, and so again, again and again.
On the other hand, you have all the chances imaginable to meet people who became real through the communication in this forum, and we all know that many young girls here really want to find their halves too.
Why you ignore those who you know through the real communication here, and why you try to find "silent" people on LL?
Just a question...

[Ladine]

probably work law -
we like - we do not like (or fear, I want a new one)
We like us - we do not trust (Because we believe that a person who is so much time on the site? And still found nothing? Means to him that it is not okay)

this is just my opinion

[saprosky]

With all my respect to everybody on this site, I wish you all - looking for good permanent relationship - to put your neck into that loop around your neck (sorry about this black humor).
I have a question to those looking for somebody -
you stay on LL, your search new profiles every day, you write letters and you pay money for it, probably. Then you travel 100000 miles away (which is again costly) to meet somebody, and so again, again and again.
On the other hand, you have all the chances imaginable to meet people who became real through the communication in this forum, and we all know that many young girls here really want to find their halves too.
Why you ignore those who you know through the real communication here, and why you try to find "silent" people on LL?
Just a question...

You are right. The forum was, when in LL, and now, as GG, a good way to know people. You can talk almost daily with them, about several topics. You can know his/her preferences and his/her thoughts. And you can get his/her email for free !!!!! :Laie_60B:

But sincerely, from my personal point of view, that is just looking for friends no the love, there are only a few interesting women. And I am glad to be friend with some of them and I hope we can meet some day and have a good time together.

But some other women in GG are the kind of woman that I never would like even as a friend. The reasons are obvious, just read some posts from the last weeks and you could understand it.

So, to find the love here is really difficult. But I hope this situation change soon :wink3:. With new members, from LL an other sites, GG will change to a good place where you can find somebody interesting. And for free :connie_crazyperson:

[Ladine]

know saprosky recent ode to a girlfriend told me that talking on the forum (or forums) is much better and easier to find a second half. than those damaged sites. On sites dominated by young girls who themselves have not yet decided what they want. but what about those who are over 40? those over 50? for their individual site there. here and forced to sit all in search of such sites but the young usually prevails, and the man does not deprived fantasies and dreams. so people on the older remain in the shadows. hackneyed, mistrust and suspicion on the forums tend to talk is always open and you can see exactly how much you fit one or another person.
(http://www.gogabber.com/member.php?u=55)

[Sarah]

I was also thinking about it a little bit. I think the answer is more simple... The sense of "mystery" disappears when you talk with somebody every day, and people hope that those "silent" might be better choices and more interesting.
I disagree that the girls "misbehaved" here - it was an unfortunate conjunction of several circumstances and a lot of misunderstanding that made them run away from here.
But life goes on. The new people who will participate in the talks sometime later can also loose their "mystery" pretty soon.

[saprosky]

I was also thinking about it a little bit. I think the answer is more simple... The sense of "mystery" disappears when you talk with somebody every day, and people hope that those "silent" might be better choices and more interesting.


I disagree with you. Men pay in almost all dating sites. If we pay is to contact women, not to sit and wait.

If we find an interesting woman, then first we do is to give her our IM or email and hope to keep the contact with her everyday. We dont need mistery, we need talk and share thoughts and dreams.

The difference in GG is that we dont need to pay. We can get her IM or email easily, even without ask her (but bad manners from a gentleman).

BTW, another difference with dating sites. Lately LL is full of scammers. GG is free of them :biggrin:

Its more difficult for a scammer move into a forum than in a dating site.:wink3:

[Koshka]

I was also thinking about it a little bit. I think the answer is more simple... The sense of "mystery" disappears when you talk with somebody every day, and people hope that those "silent" might be better choices and more interesting.
I disagree that the girls "misbehaved" here - it was an unfortunate conjunction of several circumstances and a lot of misunderstanding that made them run away from here.
But life goes on. The new people who will participate in the talks sometime later can also loose their "mystery" pretty soon.

I have told recently with the one wise lady, she said if you are ready to have a relationship you open the door of your appartament and meet a right person, if you are not ready you will spent years in searching of great love and every your attempt will be failed. The reason are always inside us.

Just thoughts.

[Ladine]

I have the doors even when at home are open to all. but the other door in no hurry to open. Usually open those doors that are generally not wanted.

[jimsan]

It's not so easy to contact someone you already know.

If you write to a stranger, on LL for example, and she rejects your advances then it's no great loss and you are not embarrassed about it.

But if I was to contact someone here that I know and tell her that I am romantically interested in her it could be a little embarrassing for both of us if she has no interest in me.

[Ladine]

I just looked at search engine sites who are over 40. and amazed. if this is a site for older what they do to girls in 23 y.??

[Ladine]

Jimmy and you do not think that a woman can only wait for her when you say to that? because it will also be hesitating and may hide their interest to you :taunt:

[saprosky]

It's not so easy to contact someone you already know.

If you write to a stranger, on LL for example, and she rejects your advances then it's no great loss and you are not embarrassed about it.

But if I was to contact someone here that I know and tell her that I am romantically interested in her it could be a little embarrassing for both of us if she has no interest in me.

In LL, you need to pay to contact (fixed messages are a crap) first time a woman because you dont have any other method (the chat is also a crap).

Here in GG you know the person before write it. You know what she likes and what she want. And you can start as a friend and later, will see :scratch_one-s_head:

[Sarah]

I have told recently with the one wise lady, she said if you are ready to have a relationship you open the door of your appartament and meet a right person, if you are not ready you will spent years in searching of great love and every your attempt will be failed. The reason are always inside us.

Just thoughts.

I agree with every word in this statement - I believe in the destiny with all my heart (because I know it is true - :connie_xmas-moose:), but I feel great sympathy for many people here, who are looking for their halves and whose mood I feel quite often through their posts. I wish I could be a professional match-maker, but I am busy with something different and may be not that important as bringing people together ...

[Sarah]

I have the doors even when at home are open to all. but the other door in no hurry to open. Usually open those doors that are generally not wanted.

Ladine - have you ever try to open the other doors, not only to keep yours open?

(Offtop - Ladine, using an on-line translator, you have to build the sentences in Russian in a very simple way - very short, without any slang or idioms, otherwise it all turns into a nightmare to understand sometimes. Just remember - short and properly built phrases, no "curly" expressions.)

[Sarah]

It's not so easy to contact someone you already know.

If you write to a stranger, on LL for example, and she rejects your advances then it's no great loss and you are not embarrassed about it.

But if I was to contact someone here that I know and tell her that I am romantically interested in her it could be a little embarrassing for both of us if she has no interest in me.

Yes, it is another important reason why people do not contact each other - we are shy and we are afraid of the sequences of our possible actions. The other smart person (I think it was Genghis Khan) said - if you do something, do not be scared, if you are scared, do not start any action (or something like that).

[Ladine]

Ladine - have you ever try to open the other doors, not only to keep yours open?

(Offtop - Ladine, using an on-line translator, you have to build the sentences in Russian in a very simple way - very short, without any slang or idioms, otherwise it all turns into a nightmare to understand sometimes. Just remember - short and properly built phrases, no "curly" expressions.)

Do you think Google would be better? I doubt it. I just too lazy now to check the translation. :no2: but I'm unused to the proposal of slang. sorry / as always do not want to think about building proposals are for the translation.

[Sarah]

Anyway, it is not necessarily to start a relationship with a phrase - you know, I feel something about you, so let's try. There are million ways to break the ice and to flirt a little, feeling more and more comfortable with each other.
I was always against of any internet-based relations and foreign marriages, but something has changed in the air, and now I want to see everybody not alone and very happy on GG.
Do me a favor, girls and boys - get together and stay together!

:connie_xmas-moose:

[Sarah]

Do you think Google would be better? I doubt it. I just too lazy now to check the translation. - THIS PART IS ALMOST IDEAL


but I'm unused to the proposal of slang.
sorry / as always do not want to think about building proposals are for the translation

proposal here means sentence (I wish I knew what was the structure and the wording in the original Russian text)

[Ladine]

:mosking: ok I will be more attentive. it just shows that I have a problem with vocabulary. no more

[CMM7]

This is a great topic you have started Sarah. Many issues involved, and some interesting opinions expressed.
I was never aware that this was a "dating" site, as a matter of fact came to this forum from LL to get away from the expectations of the women in LL.
It seemed to me most of the women here were married, or involved in a relationship, and I could engage in friendly conversation, and learn of others lives and thoughts from different countrys with out the expectations of looking for my other.
I came to realize that, to communicate with some FSU/EE women there most be some intent behind this, showing a cultural diferance in attitude between men and women, in these countrys.
here I have seen some wonderful people, some not so nice, some unpleasant.
Each of us see others based on our belief systems, based in culture, education, and most important, how we view our self.
We place judgements on the other based on our personal criteria, but in fact it all comes down to "trust" issues.
The majority of people the world over, assume others think as we do, this is a mistake, as each has their own unique thought patterns, experiences.
Assumption is the conflict in communication, besides of course, the misunderstanding of language, culture and attitude.
There are many myths in the "mail order bride" industry, as you call it, and these are of course for economic gain, by those involved in this industry.
I have personally observed a few successes, and failures in cross cultural relationships, with a higher opportunity for failure due to the cultural differences, language and expectations.
One basic question I have for all, answer it for your self.
Do your thoughts come from your emotions?
Or your emotions come from your thoughts?
My apology to all for the long post. :)

[Koshka]

Do your thoughts come from your emotions?
Or your emotions come from your thoughts?


Do your thoughts and emotions come from your knowledges?
etc

ps George, I love your thoughtful posts.

pps My question is my answer. ;)

[CMM7]

Do your thoughts and emotions come from your knowledges?
etc

ps George, I love your thoughtful posts.

pps My question is my answer. ;)

Thanks, I think:scratch_one-s_head: ;)
I wasn't really asking for an answer to me, only something for us all to reflect on and answer to ourselves.

I must ask Mr.X, if you would please clarify your thoughts, as to your post?
On reflection I admit I do not understand exactly what you are saying.:scratch_one-s_head:

[Ladine]

and can be a little offtopic Paw Paw WV is where ? :Laie_80:

[Mnguy2007]

One small comment on this subject.
I wish that the title would update to modern times.
I have always disliked the name mail order bride. I know where that name comes from but now it should be call internet dating or internet match making service. Just my two cents.

[yankee]

One small comment on this subject.
I wish that the title would update to modern times.
I have always disliked the name mail order bride. I know where that name comes from but now it should be call internet dating or internet match making service. Just my two cents.

I agree completly, there is no difference between Match.com and LL except that the women on LL do not pay anything.

[saprosky]

Not sure how it sounds in english but translated to spanish......I think women would kill me here if I say words like these :blush:

Anyway, will be funny to receive a bride in the mailbox, wrapped with a gift paper and a bow :biggrin:

Can I choose her age in the mail order ??? :lol2:

[CMM7]

I agree completly, there is no difference between Match.com and LL except that the women on LL do not pay anything.
:lol2::lol2:
Had to laugh, thinking about this.
As one guy stated there, the women were supported by the men some of them insulted there.:lol2::lol2::lol2:

[CMM7]

Not sure how it sounds in english but translated to spanish......I think women would kill me here if I say words like these :blush:

Anyway, will be funny to receive a bride in the mailbox, wrapped with a gift paper and a bow :biggrin:

Can I choose her age in the mail order ??? :lol2:

What kind of box would be used?
And the packing material?
I would fear for this woman if not packaged properly.
And then inquire as to the return policy, should she prove unsatisfactory.

:biggrin:

[Ladine]

Me in the package? And what seasoning will be?? and what way? :Laie_80:
:biggrin::lol2::lol2::lol2:

[Koshka]

Thanks, I think:scratch_one-s_head: ;)
I wasn't really asking for an answer to me, only something for us all to reflect on and answer to ourselves.

I must ask Mr.X, if you would please clarify your thoughts, as to your post?
On reflection I admit I do not understand exactly what you are saying.:scratch_one-s_head:

G,
our emotions are determinated by our last experience,
our thoughts are determinated by our experience and our knowledges.
etc.
btw it was not deep thought or the answer in deed, but only a little remark

[alenika]

But some other women in GG are the kind of woman that I never would like even as a friend. The reasons are obvious, just read some posts from the last weeks and you could understand it. Yes, but those posts let you to get to know the women. What about those who you talk in LL - you will never know how they would talk in forum, it could be a lot worse than you experienced here but you'll never be able to see these sides of those women until meet them in real of maybe even marry. Besides that, yes, forum is good for friendship, but isn't friendship a good start for true love?

Why I write all this? Because my serious relationship started in forum. And from friendsip. I actually have difficulty starting relationship in dating site when the talk is only about dating and dating actions. This all doesn't let to get to know someone, this even hinders to get to know someone.

[Voobrazheniye]

Here is a quote I've always liked:

Take care with your thoughts, because these affect your feelings.
Take care with your feelings, because these affect your words.
Take care with your words, because these affect your actions.
Take care with your actions, because these affect your character.
Take care with your character, because this affects your destiny.

[saprosky]

Yes, but those posts let you to get to know the women. What about those who you talk in LL - you will never know how they would talk in forum, it could be a lot worse than you experienced here but you'll never be able to see these sides of those women until meet them in real of maybe even marry. Besides that, yes, forum is good for friendship, but isn't friendship a good start for true love?


I dont know you, but when I know a woman in LL, I send to her my email and my yahoo or Skype ID to chat with these IM.

Then I can chat, send files and, the best, talk and use webcam. Then, after some days, you can get a good idea of her.

The problem is that LL is nor free for men, and we need to pay to contact women.

In GG you can start as friends and later with more than friends. And for free. Two different ways to arrive to sthe same goal.

But I was talking about people in GG. Only reading their posts is enough for me to know if I want to be his friend or not. And after the lasts days i have a clear idea who could or is my friend and who never will.

In LL, if first conversation is not interesting then probably I never will talk again with her.


Why I write all this? Because my serious relationship started in forum. And from friendsip. I actually have difficulty starting relationship in dating site when the talk is only about dating and dating actions. This all doesn't let to get to know someone, this even hinders to get to know someone.

Sorry, I cant agree with you. In LL you can talk with others not only about dating. It depends of you, like in real life.:wink3:

But I agree that LL is an old fashioned style of dating. Actually dating sites uses other concepts and the options to contact and, specially to know others, are very different.

[Koshka]

G,
our emotions are determinated by our last experience,
our thoughts are determinated by our experience and our knowledges.
etc.
btw it was not deep thought or the answer in deed, but only a little remark

*determined :biggrin:

[Soulmate-Africa]

With all my respect to everybody on this site, I wish you all - looking for good permanent relationship - to put your neck into that loop around your neck (sorry about this black humor).
I have a question to those looking for somebody -
you stay on LL, your search new profiles every day, you write letters and you pay money for it, probably. Then you travel 100000 miles away (which is again costly) to meet somebody, and so again, again and again.
On the other hand, you have all the chances imaginable to meet people who became real through the communication in this forum, and we all know that many young girls here really want to find their halves too.
Why you ignore those who you know through the real communication here, and why you try to find "silent" people on LL?
Just a question...

Just send me n list of names of single ladies here I would love to these ladies:blush:

[Soulmate-Africa]

Just send me n list of names of single ladies here I would love to these ladies:blush:

I would love to write to the ladies

[Ladine]

Just send me n list of names of single ladies here I would love to these ladies:blush:

Неу... friend... you forgot me with LL? he he he:blush:

[Soulmate-Africa]

Неу... friend... you forgot me with LL? he he he:blush:

I written you 10 letters and you refused to answer:scratch_one-s_head::biggrin:

[Ladine]

I written you 10 letters and you refused to answer:scratch_one-s_head::biggrin:

Whaaat????:scratch_one-s_head:Forgot... I am forgot :meeting::lol2: pack me :lol2::lol2::lol2:

[Soulmate-Africa]

Whaaat????:scratch_one-s_head:Forgot... I am forgot :meeting::lol2: pack me :lol2::lol2::lol2:

I think they are stil on the way you know everything in africa takes time and is slow:biggrin:

[Ladine]

I think they are stil on the way you know everything in africa takes time and is slow:biggrin:
ahhh I'll be spoiled in the package :not_i:

[Sarah]

and can be a little offtopic Paw Paw WV is where ? :Laie_80:

It was who you addressed this question to???
:connie_xmas-moose:

[Sarah]

Do your thoughts and emotions come from your knowledges?
etc

ps George, I love your thoughtful posts.pps My question is my answer. ;)

Sometimes I have a feeling, Mister X, that you are a girl ... :girl_witch:
PS - I love your posts quite oftent! True!

[Sarah]

One small comment on this subject.
I wish that the title would update to modern times.
I have always disliked the name mail order bride. I know where that name comes from but now it should be call internet dating or internet match making service. Just my two cents.

I just hate this name too - it is quite humiliating, but we have to recognize that it is still very popular. I know at least 2 couples who had met and married through such thing... It was before Internet time - it was a real "catalogue" of brides from the USSR (ya, it happened 100 years ago), and they are still sometimes referred to as "mail-order brides" by some very tactful people. It was quite itchy for them in the beginning and they always have a good healthy laugh now, when they hear that. But it took 10+ years to overcome. In spite that one of them became a very successful business woman in a year or so and became the main supporter for the entire American family, including American parents, kids from ex-wives, etc.
You can ignore it and it can shock your ears, but the term exists and still very popular.

[Sarah]

Me in the package? And what seasoning will be?? and what way? :Laie_80:
:biggrin::lol2::lol2::lol2:



... I really wish I knew what Russian word have you used for "seasoning" ...
Was it "embalmment"???? :girl_witch:

[Sarah]

Here is a quote I've always liked:

Take care with your thoughts, because these affect your feelings.
Take care with your feelings, because these affect your words.
Take care with your words, because these affect your actions.
Take care with your actions, because these affect your character.
Take care with your character, because this affects your destiny.

If you decide to change your profession one day - you will be an outstanding priest!

[Sarah]

I dont know you, but when I know a woman in LL, I send to her my email and my yahoo or Skype ID to chat with these IM.
Then I can chat, send files and, the best, talk and use webcam. Then, after some days, you can get a good idea of her.
The problem is that LL is nor free for men, and we need to pay to contact women.
In GG you can start as friends and later with more than friends. And for free. Two different ways to arrive to sthe same goal.
But I was talking about people in GG. Only reading their posts is enough for me to know if I want to be his friend or not. And after the lasts days i have a clear idea who could or is my friend and who never will.
In LL, if first conversation is not interesting then probably I never will talk again with her.
Sorry, I cant agree with you. In LL you can talk with others not only about dating. It depends of you, like in real life.:wink3:
But I agree that LL is an old fashioned style of dating. Actually dating sites uses other concepts and the options to contact and, specially to know others, are very different.

Alenika has a very good point - forum is not a one-day experience. First you read somebody in different threads and you think one way, then you think the other way... etc. Until you have quite a graphic picture about the personality. You even do not need to participate in the conversation to understand who is who. It comes not in one day or even in one month, but the results are more reliable that direct chatting with a LL person 2 or 3 times before you abandon them or you abandon them.

[Ladine]

It was who you addressed this question to???
:connie_xmas-moose:
yes .. I have contact with one another. in his prоfile country had such a record. it surprised me. I can not remember for the rest of geography. the contact I had in the past profile. We lost each other. Yesterday, he again found me. But have not yet had correspondence with him. no case to ask him personally about it. But it not interested for me contact :not_i:

[Sarah]

I would love to write to the ladies

I wish I could, but this info is confidential. But one not need to have a detailed list, if he (she) reads the forum from time to time. I am not a regular reader, but I have quite a good idea about the status of GG people... May be because I read Russian threads too.

[Sarah]

Also, forum is a place where we have to be careful with what we say and how we say it... If to rephrase your famous George Dennison Prentice - The Internet (originally - pen) is a formidable weapon, but a man can kill himself with it a great deal more easily than he can other people.

[saprosky]

[off topic]

Sometimes I have a feeling, Mister X, that you are a girl ... :girl_witch:
PS - I love your posts quite oftent! True!


I am sure that the X means TranX (I will explain another day what it means in spanish but maybe you can imagine :biggrin:)

[/off topic]

[Ladine]

Sometimes I have a feeling, Mister X, that you are a girl ... :girl_witch:
PS - I love your posts quite oftent! True!
:lol2::lol2::lol2: but you did not know?

[CMM7]

Also, forum is a place where we have to be careful with what we say and how we say it... If to rephrase your famous George Dennison Prentice - The Internet (originally - pen) is a formidable weapon, but a man can kill himself with it a great deal more easily than he can other people.

Wise words, we all show our personality and character as we express our thoughts and opinions in the forum.
But that is the point of any forum, yes?

[Sarah]

:lol2::lol2::lol2: but you did not know?

No, I know nothing - it is one of the basic rules to stay happy... :connie_he-moose:

[Gabber]

The industry size of mail order brides has changed a lot from the early years when it started. In the 21st century, it has transformed into a large scale business. Internet has revolutionized the business of mail order brides. The size of mail order bride industry is on an ever increasing spree with the USA having over 200 mail order bride agencies.

According to the Federal News Service, there were around 100 mail order bride agencies in the USA 10 years back. However, during this period, the industry size increased to encompass around 200 agencies. In fact, Internet has contributed a lot in the increase in size of this business, so that now it is being reckoned as an industry. In reality, an agency sells a catalogue containing 320 photos of girls at a price of $35. When you enter a website to find mail order brides, you have to access their addresses. To be able to do so, you need to pay a certain amount. If you become a member of such a website it will charge anything between $79 and $99. Hence, if men continue to do this, they contribute in increasing the size as well as turnover of this trade.

The mail order bride industry has a huge turnover rate with the business scams also contributing to the profit. It has turned into a multi million dollar industry with the size of business ever increasing. Many countries like the USA have regulated laws regarding this trade. On the other hand, countries like Canada do not have any such laws to control this booming trade thereby letting it expand and garner profit. Sometimes the illegal tie-up between this industry and the trafficking business also contribute in the increased size and profits.

President of Cherry Blossoms, an agency, vouches that this is a highly profitable business, since they serve at least 1000 men per month who pay around $200 each. Thus, we can definitely make out the huge figure of money involved in this industry with 200 such agencies.

1000 men paying 200 a month would be nice if indeed possible. No man is paying 200 a month for any dating site. The norm is 19.95 although CB is offering a years subscription for 9.95 a month from what I just visited. Nice site, mostly asian women.

There are still many East European agencies but few dating sites. Most of the sites available are agencies and they have a pay per letter policy. The idea is that your letter will be translated for the girl and her letter back to you will also be translated. Either way it is a slow and expensive process that cannot match the meat market appeal of a large dating site.

[Sarah]

The norm is 19.95 although CB is offering a years subscription for 9.95 a month from what I just visited. Nice site, mostly asian women.

This is exactly what I hate and despise in dating sites – the confidence of the visitors that every little thing has its price… It reminds me the way I buy new shoes – I like this process, I have my choice for the money I pay, and I can always throw these shoes away and buy another pair … How can you respect a person after you have bought her? How can this person respect you after she has been sold?
Actually, the questions are rhetorical – I will never understand any answer no matter how convincing it can sound.

[saprosky]

If a dating site ask for 200$ probably is a scam site.

I didnt know the site you said but another from Czech Republic ask for 500$ monthly. Maybe girls are very nice but too expensive to check it. Cheaper go to Prague :biggrin:

[Gabber]

I would think any man who buys a monthly membership is buying the opportunity to meet someone not unlike local dating sites. Every woman has the right to say "no way Jose' and no one is being bought and sold. Maybe I am not understanding your train of thought.

[Ladine]

Most likely you simply do not understand our ideas. On one of sites I have tried to correspond with one man. It has told that I too old for it but to it was for 50 and it looked for the girl of 28-30 years. When I to it have tried what to explain it to me have answered that it has paid day and has the right to choose. It is insulting? Yes. Who will go on such acquaintance?
Only the girl which wishes to have the open way to other country but hardly it will be love. These are rare cases of the present love with such difference in the age of. But men have the right to choose as horses in a stall. Not thinking it is pleasant to young girls or not. I think Sarah the rights. I at once have left this site shop of commerce in a young body.

[Koshka]

I would think any man who buys a monthly membership is buying the opportunity to meet someone not unlike local dating sites. Every woman has the right to say "no way Jose' and no one is being bought and sold. Maybe I am not understanding your train of thought.

I agree with Sarah.
It's a delicate nuance, but it exists.
Men and women subconsciously feel it.

[CMM7]

Hmmm, I always thought it was people reaching out, on all levels.
Why is it only what some one thinks it is, when every one thinks different?

[Sarah]

Everyone thinks what he/ she thinks and I am not trying to convince none of you that I am right and my truth is the only truth. But I think it was a very important moment for me when I read Bobby's post dedicated to the dating sites and amounts, and then his simple words "nice asian girls" - it was like the last shape in the puzzle and the answer was delivered to me - now I definitely know why I hate dating sites. I just did not think about it properly before. This is my way, yours and everybody's way can be very different. I absolutely prefer to meet people in my real world, but at least I understand why some other people do it in the Internet.
:connie_xmas-moose:

[Ladine]

besides. Asian girls are much prettier. and our women are inferior to them in this. so having a large selection of beautiful pictures, men often lost spending on finding those who he needs for many years. and our women do not like long drag time. or you win and become happy? or lost but it alone was the wiser.

[CMM7]

besides. Asian girls are much prettier. and our women are inferior to them in this. so having a large selection of beautiful pictures, men often lost spending on finding those who he needs for many years. and our women do not like long drag time. or you win and become happy? or lost but it alone was the wiser.

I do not know about the your 1st sentence, that a woman from the FSU/EE is inferior in beauty, of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
For me looks may draw, but it is going to be personality and character that keeps.
I think any long distance relation ship is hard, in the normal course of life.
To start a long distance relation ship, much harder, no matter where each is from.


Sarah, thanks for explaining your thoughts, about this issue.
It is right for you and works, I say more power to you.
Ultimately even from a date site there is going to have to be the real meeting any way.

[Gabber]

Everyone thinks what he/ she thinks and I am not trying to convince none of you that I am right and my truth is the only truth. But I think it was a very important moment for me when I read Bobby's post dedicated to the dating sites and amounts, and then his simple words "nice asian girls" - it was like the last shape in the puzzle and the answer was delivered to me - now I definitely know why I hate dating sites. I just did not think about it properly before. This is my way, yours and everybody's way can be very different. I absolutely prefer to meet people in my real world, but at least I understand why some other people do it in the Internet.
:connie_xmas-moose:

ok, understood - I also think the Mail Order Bride stigma is still in force.

btw, I said nice site (as in design), mostly asian girls (as in members)

[Ladine]

I do not know about the your 1st sentence, that a woman from the FSU/EE is inferior in beauty, of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
For me looks may draw, but it is going to be personality and character that keeps.
I think any long distance relation ship is hard, in the normal course of life.
To start a long distance relation ship, much harder, no matter where each is from.


Sarah, thanks for explaining your thoughts, about this issue.
It is right for you and works, I say more power to you.
Ultimately even from a date site there is going to have to be the real meeting any way.

I agree with you. However, the first rule of men who initially love eyes (picture) only after they figure out the inner side. but it takes time.

[Taiss]

So, to find the love here is really difficult. Hardly i will be ever able to understand what a person means telling 'to find love'...
Is love the thing that can be found?
Isn't love a mirackle that is perfomed by the Man Upstairs?
saprosky, it is not about you. You just help me find a stress among lots of thoughts, thanks.

[Gabber]

Hardly i will be ever able to understand what a person means telling 'to find love'...
Is love the thing that can be found?
Isn't love a mirackle that is perfomed by the Man Upstairs?
saprosky, it is not about you. You just help me find a stress among lots of thoughts, thanks.

if what you say is true, then the Man Upstairs is making a crap load of blunders.

[Taiss]

if what you say is true, then the Man Upstairs is making a crap load of blunders.

Perhaps, people are too in a hurry?

[NewSarah]

Perhaps, people are too in a hurry?

People are too picky these days.

[Taiss]

People are too picky these days.
Basically this is a very interesting question.
To be picky to who?

[yankee]

Basically this is a very interesting question.
To be picky to who?

I don't believe people are too picky. People are afraid, or not truly committed to the process or have unachievable expectations, but not too picky.
Most of the people I know, whether or not they married local women or foreign women, knew their wives YEARS before they got married. It seems as if some people think that one can marry an international woman only after knowing her for a few weeks. This is ludicrous.

[Voobrazheniye]

I don't believe people are too picky. People are afraid, or not truly committed to the process or have unachievable expectations, but not too picky.
Most of the people I know, whether or not they married local women or foreign women, knew their wives YEARS before they got married. It seems as if some people think that one can marry an international woman only after knowing her for a few weeks. This is ludicrous.

When you are young, you don't realize - or care - what an important and lifelong decision it is to choose the "right" partner. When you are older, and especially if you're youthful impetuousness has burned you a few times along the way, you take such choices much more seriously. That means more careful consideration, taking more time, dealing with doubts and fears, and all the rest. It's damn hard.

If some still thinks he or she can make such a decision with little thought, as when the youthful hormones were raging, then that person probably hasn't grown up yet.

[Taiss]

People are afraid, or not truly committed to the process or have unachievable expectations...

oh, yes... unachievable expectations.
This is so simple but a rare person stares inside themselves.
If I want to be happy why does someone have to make me happy? The source of happiness inside of me. The most difficult task is always remember nobody can be happy instead of me.
This is ludicrous.
what about chemistry? Does it exist?

[Taiss]

When you are young...
the "right" partner.
...

Hardly.
If i had thought of the right partner i wouldn't gotten divorced.
Can i ask who is the right partner?
Sounds strange.

*by the way how can i add my avatar?
Thanks.

[yankee]

oh, yes... unachievable expectations.
This is so simple but a rare person stares inside themselves.
If I want to be happy why does someone have to make me happy? The source of happiness inside of me. The most difficult task is always remember nobody can be happy instead of me.

what about chemistry? Does it exist?

Of course chemistry exists! My wife and I were crazy in love with each other 2 1/2 years before we got married. A successful marriage depends much more than just chemistry. My wife also visited the US for 3 months before we made the final decision to get married. She was very concerned whether or not she would like the US.

[slkas]

*by the way how can i add my avatar?

Go to Quick Links, select CPanel...edit options, Left column under Settings and Options...select edit Avatar.

[Taiss]

Why you ignore those who you know through the real communication here, and why you try to find "silent" people on LL?
Just a question...
Perhaps, they don't like anybody here.
You see... i have got lots of friends but i don't want anyone to be 'my' man.

[Taiss]

As for forum.
A great thing. Much better than agencies.
I like it.
Real people.
Nobody is obliged to love/like me.
Nice chance to know more about life out of my country at first hand.