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Shadow-off
10-05-2008, 08:49 PM
Marijuana and the Law

The ethical value of laws established to prevent individuals from smoking and growing marijuana are unbalanced.
When looking at why laws are developed and adopted, we must first consider the reason behind all laws in modern society. What are laws and what is a law designed to do.

Any law is established for the purpose of attempting to adopt publically a requirement set by a government judicial body that prevents and individual or individuals from doing something and to enforce its validity with judicial punishment if an individual or individuals violate an established and adopted law. That is what laws do. Now why? What is the reason for any law being established and adopted in modern society?

The answer is quite simple. Laws are simply designed to protect and prevent loss and injury to persons, or property. A law is designed to prevent people from being injured. Some examples of situations laws are established to protect:

A contractor takes money from its customer in order to provide a service and deliver a finished product. If this is not done or delayed fraud has been committed. Fraud laws prevent injury by preventing loss.

A man enters a bank with a gun and takes money from the bank. He has threatened people and taken something that does not belong to him. This is criminal law designed to protect the interest of the owner of something and potential physical injury.

Cigarettes and Alcohol. In the United States an individual cannot buy cigarettes or alcohol until he or she is 21 years old. Cigarettes are habit-forming and have been associated with birth defects, cancer, heart attack and stroke. Alcohol is a poisonous substance and drug that influences the brain to the point that logical thought process and control of balance and motor function are severely altered.

It is against the law to drive or operate machinery while under the influence of alcohol. In addition, alcohol is physically addictive and causes delirium trems DT’s, and cirrhosis of the liver in long-term heavy drinkers. It also causes more deaths and than any other substance consumed in the United States. Laws are designed to protect individuals mainly from injuring others through use of alcohol.

What do marijuana laws protect people against? Yes it can cause injury for those who overindulge, operate machinery, or operate a vehicle just as alcohol does. Yet alcohol is legal for purchase, consumption and manufacture.

Will marijuana kill? No there is no known evidence medically that has indicated marijuana is physically addictive, or physiologically damaging than cigarettes are. People do not consume marijuana in the amounts that cigarettes are consumed. Marijuana has also been accepted by the FDA and the medical community as being of some value to some illnesses.

So why is Marijuana illegal? What injury is it causing society that laws exist to prevent its use? So why is there a law against it costing billions of dollars in eradication and arrest expense? The annual number of arrests climbed from 340,000 in 1992, to almost 700,000 in 2002.

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516

How many people in the world smoke marijuana ? Estimates are that 60-75 percent of the people worldwide smoke marijuana. Its more the newer generation than the older ones, but most people who lived as a teen through the 70s or 80s most likely still smoke pot.
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IamKeenan
10-06-2008, 01:20 AM
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Yana
10-06-2008, 02:09 AM
Yes spirit poison, more toxic than marihuana. I never saw the degraded person used mj. I have stopped to use mj. It to me has ceased to please. And I do not drink alcohol too.

IamKeenan
10-06-2008, 02:25 AM
Yes spirit poison, more toxic than marihuana. I never saw the degraded person used mj. I have stopped to use mj. It to me has ceased to please. And I do not drink alcohol too.

Here is something to please you my Princess:lol:

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/mexico-drug-money2.jpg

pouffe
10-06-2008, 10:37 AM
Better to receive a case with Swiss Francs! Dollars are only paper now...

kentuckydan
10-19-2008, 09:54 AM
Better to receive a case with Swiss Francs! Dollars are only paper now...

Take up more space that way harder to transport

1.00 USD = 1.13770 CHF
United States Dollars Switzerland Francs

Unless Swiss Francs are SMALLER than USD?

cecilia
10-19-2008, 03:55 PM
marijuana also as much addictive as alcohol and cigarette.people who smokes it for years became quite forgetfull and if not smoking get annoyed. marijuana is not that addictive as cigarette in fist year of smoking ,easy to quite but only for those who want to.(havent seen many:))

Lucker
10-19-2008, 04:48 PM
marijuana also as much addictive as alcohol and cigarette.people who smokes it for years became quite forgetfull and if not smoking get annoyed. marijuana is not that addictive as cigarette in fist year of smoking ,easy to quite but only for those who want to.(havent seen many:))

Who are we reminded of right here in the Forum ?

Shadow-off
10-19-2008, 08:41 PM
Thank you Cecilia:

Marjuana like anything consumed can be psychologically addictive. So are roasted Sunflower seeds. :becky: Buy two small bags of them and soon you'll be finding yourself buying tons of them. They are also packe with high salt and vitamin E which if vitamin E or any fatty vitamin is consumed too much can be dangerous for the body. I almost forgot though we're talking about marjuana. ;)

Lets look at some facts;

The organization NORML ( National Organization of the Reform of Marjuana Laws) states that every 38 SECONDS someone in the U.S. is arrested for violating some form of established marjuana law.

Here's another funny but interesting point:
When you go to a U.S. Court before you are allowed to sit on the witness stand; you must place your right hand on the Bible and say " I swear to tell the truth; the whole truth and nothing but the truth; so help me God " . What is interesting about this is that the same book that the court requires people to recite this oath of honesty is in fact the same book that tells us Marjuana is legal. It clearly says in Genisis chapter verse 11: " And God said , let the Earth bring forth grass, the herb yeilding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the Earth; and it was so". It also says in Genesis chapter 1 verse 29 & 30: " And God said. Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of the earth, and every tree, in the whichis the fruitof a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30: And to every beast of the earth, and every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so". That is word for word straight from the Bible.

If I am ever arrested for pot I will read this to the Judge and appeal my case to the Supreme court of the U.S. It is unconstitional for the Government and the State to make Marjuana legal. Alcohol comes from grain and from Grapes one is a plant bearing seed ( Hops ) the other is a Vine plant bearing fruit. Both are leagal and both are much more detrimental. Canada has already rulled it is unconstitutuional recently.

I smoke about 1 gram a month to relax approximately. I don't abuse it and I control my consumption of it. When I drink even one beer I do not drive my car until the next morning and if I have smoked part of a joint I also do night leave my house driving a car. I could probably drive very well under both circumstances but I just don't do it.

Here is a statement from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency, ( DEA ), about marjuana:

"Estimates suggest that from 20 to 50 million Americans routinely, albeit illegally, smoke marijuana without the benefit of direct medical supervision. Yet, despite this long history of use and the extraordinarily high numbers of social smokers, there are simply no credible reports to suggest that consuming marijuana has caused a single death. By contrast, aspirin, a commonly used, over-the-counter medicine, causes hundreds of deaths each year."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law

Yana
10-05-2010, 01:23 PM
feeeeee(((((((((

Andylad
10-05-2010, 04:56 PM
I have been using cannabis for nearly 20 years now, i started after a pretty horrific motor bike accident in which i broke my back,leg, pelvis, both wrists, 4 ribs, shoulder blade & collar bone + multiple internal injuries, i spent 2 years in a wheelchair where the doctors told me i would never walk without sticks again. the pain i went through was unbearable & the doc's kept filling me full of pills, until eventually i was addicted to prescription drugs, my friend suggested marijuana, the relief it brought me was amazing, i could eventually get a decent night's sleep & because i was not worn out because of the pain i started to get stronger, now, 26years after my accident, i'm working 7 days a week & on my feet all day, i have not used a walking stick for over 18 years, i am still convinced to this day that cannabis played a large part in my recovery, i still use it regularly, but very rarely smoke it, mostly i put it in food.
it took me 14 years to get off prescription drugs with no help from the doctors, they told me ''don't worry, 2 or 3 a day will do you no harm'' i slowly weened myself off them & got down to one a day, that last one proved the hardest, i got sweaty, shaky & bad tempered every time i tried to stop, i eventually got so pissed off i jumped on a plane, went to my house in Thailand alone & did 2 week's cold turkey, it was awful! but now i'm clean & have been for 2 years. imho alcohol & prescription drugs are 10 times worse than cannabis, i very rarely use either now.
i think it is only illegal because the government can not control it, if they could find a way to tax it, it would be legalized. :)

P.S. i will be appearing in Preston Crown Court on 15th November on charges of cultivating canabis. :( no joke, i'll let you know how i go on (if they don't lock me up):eek:

Gabbibo
10-05-2010, 08:29 PM
legalise cannabis !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kentuckydan
10-05-2010, 11:39 PM
Better to receive a case with Swiss Francs! Dollars are only paper now...

100.00 USD = 96.6450 CHF (http://www.xe.com/ucc/)

When propaganda exceeds reality, looks to me that the value of a case of USD is more value than the same number of CHFs denomination constant

Calibret
10-06-2010, 04:50 PM
Good Luck to you Andylad.:peace:

It should be legalized, the whole thing is just absurd. It causes far,
far less problems than alcohol or cigarettes.
It can be taxed and controlled and you would eliminate most of the
crime associated with it.

Andylad
11-30-2010, 10:56 PM
Well i'm still here after the court date, not being raped in some prison shower! :biggrin:
I was in the dock for 3 hours, the prosecution were trying to charge me with commercial supply, (selling marijuana) they had 8yrs phone records, every phone call, every text & every photo (a few quite naughty ones) i have ever been sent in the last 8yrs, in that time there were 4 text messages asking me for marijuana, but no mention of any payment, i was asked questions by my barrister first, then cross examined by the prosecution, & boy, did she go at me hard, in the 3hrs i was in there she kept repeating questions she had asked me earlier, trying to trick me into changing my answers, but she failed, a few times i had the judge laughing out loud with my answers, he was a very nice old man, a bit like a lovable granddad,,
to cut a long story short, he believed everything i said & found in my favor, not guilty of supply, he did however fine me £1000 for growing & court costs, but the best result is, no community service, no suspended sentence, & the best bit, in the judges words ''there is no way that this respectable, upstanding & hard working young man is to have a criminal record, his record must remain unblemished, Mr Gill you are free to go''
That night i got soooo p!ssed.. :Laie_95::Laie_95:

Sveta's Hero
11-30-2010, 11:37 PM
Although I don't use it, I firmly believe it should be legalized. It makes people less aggressive, and under controlled growing by the government, it would get rid of a lot of the toxic crap that's out on the streets now.

KeenanRocks
12-01-2010, 03:44 AM
ya'll are giving me the munchies just talking about it.. Funny Story.I was never a pot smoker for one simple reason-I could not function,could not talk,did not want to do anything but eat chocolate and laugh.But one night a friend of mine who is very intense person asked me to go see Apocalypse Now with him. SO I went to pick him up and we smoked a joint before we left his house. Well the Park Theater was only a few blocks away (thank God) and as we walked up to get our tickets James started saying we are going into the Jungles and fight the gooks too. We have been Drafted Keenan, As we got our tickets he turned to me and said ''This is our draft card'' well shit by then I was so high I was believing everything he said and most likely my eyes were bugging out too. So we got in and took our seats and we were really in the role by then so as the movie started I was so focused and deep into the film.. Man it was the coolest thing and I will never forget my enlistment into the Army and going to war that night..

Sveta's Hero
12-01-2010, 04:19 AM
Smoke one and watch "The Wall":biggrin: