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This post contains material I have collected over the span of about 10 years, from many sources.
As to the veracity of it, the use of it, or even if it is all true, or correct, I can not say.
I did try to do a little research on it, and this took me into worlds far beyond the pale of anything I have ever investigated.
I met many people of a nature, and with beliefs that to me seemed quite strange.
And I might add in situations, such as one I will describe.
At a mineral show I Prescott Arizona, I met a woman called Sky flower, she was perhaps a few years older then me, she was looking at some quartz crystals I had discovered while mining, due to the fact that I drilled holes, and used explosives to "shoot" the rock, they had been broken in length, but still held the hexagonal shape, about 4-5cm in diameter, and 6-8cm in length, they ranged from semi-milky to clear rock crystal.
She told me she could "charge" a crystal, with so much energy no one could hold it. Of course I ask her if she would do so with one of the crystals, she took it up in her hand, and raised both hands to the sky, then down to the earth, all the while chanting a prayer to mother earth, father sky.
She ask me if I was ready, and I put out my hand to receive the crystal, she looked me right in the eye, and dropped it into my hand.
I felt nothing, her eyes grew large with fear, and she said 'I know you" turned and fled. the next day a man came and holding his hand open passed it over these crystals, he stopped at the crystal she had "charged", and made me a "heart" offer of 8.00USD for it.
Interesting, I have had many walk through the booth feeling, but not touching the stone and crystals.
So you may make of it what you will.
For me? I acknowledge there is much in the world that is beyond my understanding, much of modern physics seems to deal with other dimensions, connections between all things.
As a boy I was introduced to the mystical of Christianity, and the tribes brand of "sacred" knowledge.
I think we all have had encounters with what I call super natural experiences of one type or another. I have been educated to a small degree in physics, and I would also consider some of this super natural also.
All are welcome to post here with in the range of the topic, which is very broad, and in the language of their choice.
I do only ask that all respect others and what they choose to believe or not.
There is much more, but was to tired to post it.
slkas
12-12-2010, 06:01 PM
Zero Point Energy field. "The Field" by Lynne McTaggert. Might help in an explanation of the energy. You've described many places I have been through. Tell me is Wickenburg still there, and has anyone ever found the Lost Dutchman?
elane-ellie
12-12-2010, 06:16 PM
All are welcome to post here with in the range of the topic, which is very broad, and in the language of their choice.
I do only ask that all respect others and what they choose to believe or not.
G,
Thank you for the permission to post anything within this broad, really broad subject here in your thread! It’s very kind of you! :tender:
Nigdy czarowniejszą pieśnią nie kusiła Odysa syrena...Gdyby fiołki i konwalie zamiast pachnąć grać umiały, byłaby to muzyka..
It was the language of my choice.. Now, following the tradition, I ask a question as a reply to your question.. :whistle2:
Is it Basilisk on your avatar? If yes, and if you believe in things what are beyond your understanding, do you either believe that Basilisk symbolizes the devil in art? Or so they say.. According to legend, there are two kinds of the creature. The first one burns everything it approaches, and the second kind can kill every living thing with a mere glance.
Both are so dreadful that even their breath wilts vegetation and shatters stones. It was believed that if a man on horseback should try to kill it with a spear, the power of the poison conducted through the weapon would not only kill the rider, but the horse as well. :eek:
The only way to kill a basilisk is by holding a mirror in front of its eyes, while avoiding to look directly at it. The moment the creature sees its own reflection, it will die of fright. G, mirrors must be avoided!!! :becky:
Oh yes but if you have not been there in say last 5 years, you would be amazed at the growth, believe it or not it is now a bedroom community of Phoenix.
New town up I-17, past pioneer also.
And Phoenix and Tucson are almost one now.
I am stuned as I travel about AZ, at the growth.
Yes and no, The Hall mine bore the same ore as lost Dutchman's mine, but it flooded, and no one seems to be able to pump it out. but back in the Superstitions, folk are still disappearing, every year.
4peaks Amethyst is now world renowned, the Tucson show gets bigger every year, and so does Quartzsite.
Lot of trouble on the boarder now, fire fights almost on weekly basis.
Thanks for suggestion of book, always been of intrest to me.
slkas
12-12-2010, 06:33 PM
The drawings seem to be like the (if I remember correctly) 10 dimensions of creation as set forth in the Qabbalah. This is Zohar territory here. But, I find that the dimensional description set forth in a book that is a few thousand years old is remarkable in attune with the current description set forth in post Newtonian physics.
I must go read. Nothing else to do since I am too old to go play in the rain. Later
slkas
12-12-2010, 06:45 PM
At the rate the population is growing, the water in the mine will be worth more than the ore. Unless it is the Oglalla aquifer and then you wait because when it runs out, the ore will be available again.
I haven't gone that route (17) since the early whenever's. I had a Porsche in those days and used to drive (89?) from Kingman through the hills down to the road that went through Wickenburg down to Phoenix.
The disappearances? I think that there are legends of a gateway into another world in that area. Be careful in your wanderings, you might end up somewhere else.
G,
Thank you for the permission to post anything within this broad, really broad subject here in your thread! It’s very kind of you! :tender:
Nigdy czarowniejszą pieśnią nie kusiła Odysa syrena...Gdyby fiołki i konwalie zamiast pachnąć grać umiały, byłaby to muzyka..
It was the language of my choice.. Now, following the tradition, I ask a question as a reply to your question.. :whistle2:
Is it Basilisk on your avatar? If yes, and if you believe in things what are beyond your understanding, do you either believe that Basilisk symbolizes the devil in art? Or so they say.. According to legend, there are two kinds of the creature. The first one burns everything it approaches, and the second kind can kill every living thing with a mere glance.
Both are so dreadful that even their breath wilts vegetation and shatters stones. It was believed that if a man on horseback should try to kill it with a spear, the power of the poison conducted through the weapon would not only kill the rider, but the horse as well. :eek:
The only way to kill a basilisk is by holding a mirror in front of its eyes, while avoiding to look directly at it. The moment the creature sees its own reflection, it will die of fright. G, mirrors must be avoided!!! :becky:
El, I am a dragon slayer, :biggrin:
Seems by Chinese astrologer I am a dragon, and according to a book a water dragon, but do seem to share some of the general characteristics, as expounded in the book. Just liked the graphic, so picked it for avatar.
I have read the mythologies, have always wondered that if in fact it is based on real events in some point in history. But in honesty, I have no idea, I think a basilisk and dragon were separate beings in the mythology's.
I thought it was Medusa that would die if caught herself looking in mirror?
It is my understanding that the "devil" is in each of us. But have always been led to understand he was one of gods most beautiful angels, run amok from ego and power. In bible (most versions), he also appears as a serpent.
I have no problem looking in the mirror, (have to to shave), just a average guy looking back. But can be poison in some circumstance.
What language have you used, it looks very old? (Old slavic, maybe?)
I also get the feeling I am under a cross hair, very old feeling, one I am used to, but still breathing, still lucky, or blessed, depending on ones point of view.
let me do a little more research on your questions, to be sure I am not leading you astray with faulse information, Or as the saying goes " I do not know, But I will find out"
You are of course most welcome.:Laie_95:
elane-ellie
12-12-2010, 07:08 PM
Strange events do not seem odd to me. As I am a great believer in both.. physics and metaphysics. :rudolf:
Thus, one "everyday prayer" of mine is the law of conservation of energy: energy can neither be created (produced) nor destroyed by itself. It can only be transformed. :girl_sigh:
The second Pater Noster is The Arcana - archetypal influences that transcend Time and Space.
According to the ancient text, the arcana are pre-existing powers that "have the power of transmuting, altering, and restoring us", the secret workings of the mind of God, the logos of the Greeks or what the alchemists were referring to as the thoughts of the One Mind.
In the Tarot, the arcana are represented by symbolic drawings.
In the Cabala, the arcana are represented by the esoteric properties of the letters of the Hebrew alphabet, energies that the cabalist tries to work with in the Tree of Life.
The alchemists believed the arcana were expressed on all levels of reality - from chemical compounds to our innermost moods and desires. :hmm:
elane-ellie
12-12-2010, 07:13 PM
What language have you used, it looks very old? (Old slavic, maybe?)
It's Polish, one of my native languages :fish:
But you were correct, it is a bit archaic style :girl_smile:
The drawings seem to be like the (if I remember correctly) 10 dimensions of creation as set forth in the Qabbalah. This is Zohar territory here. But, I find that the dimensional description set forth in a book that is a few thousand years old is remarkable in attune with the current description set forth in post Newtonian physics.
I must go read. Nothing else to do since I am too old to go play in the rain. Later
Yes that is how it was explained to me also, and found that if you were to change some of the words, it appears very much as some of the modern physics theory.
El,
Thank you, as always your knowledge is astounding.
I hope you will post more here, and since you already know, you have the answer to your own question, yes?
It's Polish, one of my native languages :fish:
But you were correct, it is a bit archaic style :girl_smile:
Yes, of course. I should have known.:scratch_one-s_head:
My bad.
elane-ellie
12-12-2010, 08:00 PM
El,
since you already know, you have the answer to your own question, yes?
No! Not at all! I'm too talkative today but " He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know." (Lao Zi) :becky:
G, when I ask a question - it means I'm interested to know someone's opinion but mine.
:girl_sigh:
I'm all ears
I believe there is much about the universe, and our world I do not understand.
I accept the fact there is a GOD, ( or a higher power, consciousness).
I believe that Jesus died for my sins, that real heaven is setting in the light and warmth of god, that hell is the real cold dark death of spirit or soul.
I believe that all organized religion is for the appeasement of mankind's guilt at our behaviors, and operated by many that are to lazy to get jobs and work.
I also believe I was given a guide, it resides in my heart, its little voice whispers to me.
NOTE It is not the voice in my head that says" Stay home today and load ammunition".
I believe, the thoughts we think are energy, that what we put out is what we get back.
I believe we have full power over our self, that the world is what we think it to be.
I believe I only have the answers for my self, each must find their own path.
I can not make others choices for them, I do not allow others to make choices for me.
I believe all this is subject to change, as life is change.
I believe the motion and order of the universe, is relationship, and chaos.
beyond that I do not believe in much else that I can not kill, eat, operate, drive, or see. But at times in my life I have seen things that were not there, or misconstrued what was there.
I believe sometimes the real devil is Chief Murphy and his goat.(Murphy's law).
Better for this to use eye's ;)
elane-ellie
12-13-2010, 11:42 AM
Be careful in your wanderings, you might end up somewhere else.
If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading.
A good traveller has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving.
El,
No doubt in my mind, I always enjoy the trip, enjoy my travels around the western US, the people, our life style, the weather.
But thank you for your warnings, I will post them with all the others.
I will end exactly where I am going to, as we all will, some will get there before others.
Now what do you believe in? post it here please.
I am already some place else.
Will recomend a very good movie, "INCEPTION".
As they say there is no reality, it is all in our minds, and although only a movie, in this each will get a sight of this.
slkas
12-14-2010, 05:46 AM
If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading.
A good traveller has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving.
But of course. Life is about the voyage/trip/journey, not about a destination. Reality is all a thought process. We live in a universe created by our minds and for some of us, the reality is shared.
elane-ellie
12-14-2010, 06:53 PM
El,
No doubt in my mind, I always enjoy the trip, enjoy my travels around the western US, the people, our life style, the weather.
But thank you for your warnings, I will post them with all the others.
I will end exactly where I am going to, as we all will, some will get there before others.
Now what do you believe in? post it here please.
G, it was not a warning, not at all; I was rather drivelling on about "the meaning of life" - silly femalish talks. Even though, it is what I do believe in. At the every moment when one makes his choice, his life splits into two different lives: "before" and "after", over and over again. Plus infinity and minus infinity.
Apology, if I wrote something wrong what made you offended or upset. Never wanted that.
Elah
elane-ellie
12-16-2010, 07:36 PM
I am already some place else.
Will recomend a very good movie, "INCEPTION".
As they say there is no reality, it is all in our minds, and although only a movie, in this each will get a sight of this.
Watched the film. Liked it. Yes, I believe, there are many realities, as many as one can imagine.
There were several films of similar genre ( more or less) I've seen before:
"The Science of Sleep" and "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" by Michel Gondry
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0354899/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338013/
And "Waking Life"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0243017/
Some of you might like them.
El, it is always a pleasure to read your post's.
You always have interesting thoughts, and add new concepts, new ways to look at things.:Laie_95:
My apology for not keeping up with the thread, hate to touch keyboard, as I have been a greasy mess, and little long in the tooth for the work on the truck, but it is done:clapping:
All is now working great, like new, so I will continue to add the rest of info I have collected.
I will check out these new movies you suggest soon as I can.
And did get to see Baraka, what a great movie, am waiting for them to get Waking life in, so I may watch it. (ha the folk at Block buster,the movie rental store, ask me where I was from?:lol2:)
Never hesitate to warn me, out of curiosity I some times go where I have no business being, and I do not want to end up like the cat.:no:
elane-ellie
12-17-2010, 11:03 AM
I am already some place else.
Will recomend a very good movie, "INCEPTION".
As they say there is no reality, it is all in our minds, and although only a movie, in this each will get a sight of this.
Forgot to tell you - the film concept, the dream inside a dream, reminded me the famous Chuang Tsu's story.
"Once I, Chuang Tsu, dreamed I was a butterfly and was happy as a butterfly. I was conscious that I was quite pleased with myself, but I did not know that I was Tzu. Suddenly I awoke, and there was I, visibly Tzu. I do not know whether it was Tzu dreaming that he was a butterfly or the butterfly dreaming that he was Tzu. Between Tzu and the butterfly there must be some distinction. But one may be the other. This is called the transformation of things."
:girl_smile:
Here is a link to a crystal healing site, lots of information on this subject.
http://www.peacefulmind.com/stones.htm
I carry 1 book for sale at gem and mineral shows, "Healing Crystals", by Michael Gienger.
Catch grief, and thank yous for doing this.
Many times am asked if I believe in this. my short answer is is there must be something to it, as science shows crystals have many strange properties.
The long answer is, M. Giengers hand book, his studies and the compilation of about 40 study groups all over Europe, which he rotates stones to asking for their study of phenomena associated with this subject.
As to my believe, can only say there is much in the world I do not understand, and if it works for you, causes no harm, then it is fine by me.:Laie_87A:
huney
12-19-2010, 08:04 PM
And did get to see Baraka, what a great movie
If you liked Baraka, you must see the Qatsi series (Qatsi is a Hopi word meaning Life)
Koyaanisqatsi (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085809/), Powaqqatsi (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095895/), and Naqoyqatsi (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145937/)
Gabber
12-19-2010, 08:18 PM
I am already some place else.
Will recomend a very good movie, "INCEPTION".
As they say there is no reality, it is all in our minds, and although only a movie, in this each will get a sight of this.
saw it last night...it was ok.
If you liked Baraka, you must see the Qatsi series (Qatsi is a Hopi word meaning Life)
Koyaanisqatsi (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085809/), Powaqqatsi (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095895/), and Naqoyqatsi (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145937/)
Thank you Huney, I will try to do so.
By the way have you read, "book of the Hopi"? (frank waters author?)
The current belief of Hopi is they exist to keep the "world" in existence, this is from my sons blood brother, a full blood of Hopi origen.
saw it last night...it was ok.
Wild concept hu? and a little scary, IMO
There is a great controversy, and conflict between Hopi, and Navajo nations over land grabs by Navajo, from Hopi, and the desecration of sacred locations.
The Hopi reservation lays with in the Navajo reservation.
huney
12-19-2010, 08:56 PM
Thank you Huney, I will try to do so.
By the way have you read, "book of the Hopi"? (frank waters author?)
The current belief of Hopi is they exist to keep the "world" in existence, this is from my sons blood brother, a full blood of Hopi origen.
No, I've not. I just checked the library and reserved a copy. Thanks :)
Being a member of a matriarchy myself, I find it interesting that the Hopi are a matrilineal society. Rare in this world.
No, I've not. I just checked the library and reserved a copy. Thanks :)
Being a member of a matriarchy myself, I find it interesting that the Hopi are a matrilineal society. Rare in this world.
Almost all southwestern native cultures are matriarchal, the men did, do not live long,(warfare, always protect the women), even the the Apache, which is a mans,man world, as a boy I witnessed a man beaten almost to death by the acacita, (tribal council "police")for abuse of his wife.
All possessions are passed from mother to daughter, weapons and mans tools go to son, or nephews.
huney
12-19-2010, 09:13 PM
Almost all southwestern native cultures are matriarchal, the men did, do not live long,(warfare, always protect the women), even the the Apache, which is a mans,man world, as a boy I witnessed a man beaten almost to death by the acacita, (tribal council "police")for abuse of his wife.
All possessions are passed from mother to daughter, weapons and mans tools go to son, or nephews.
As it should be.
Women are usually best at taking care of things. Men - of protecting people. Right up to the part where they decide to start a war.
yes we are good at that, sadly :(
huney
12-19-2010, 09:33 PM
yes we are good at that, sadly :(
Odd. I'd have said you were very bad at that. Perhaps not you personally, but your gender in general. I think if women were to engage in warfare (at the directive level) it would all be over very quickly. Men just seem to revel in the entire process.
Back to topic... Can anyone posit a theory as to why street lamps go out when I pass beneath them? Not all of them, certainly, but more than enough to make me wonder.
Gabber
12-19-2010, 09:48 PM
I think if women were to engage in warfare (at the directive level) it would all be over very quickly.
I would agree with you if I didn't read the Russian threads on GG
I was always told that we should give our worst enemies to the women they were much better in the deprivations to them.
As to the lights, possably because you are so brite? the sensors think the sun has risen. Have known a few that say the same, EM field of your body?
Pick the best for you. :)
huney
12-19-2010, 10:08 PM
I would agree with you if I didn't read the Russian threads on GG
Ah... perhaps, but methinks they do not engage in warfare. Only minor skirmishes.