New, new!!!!

[pouffe]

There is now a railway direct from Moscow to Nice, 53 hours of journey and a price beetwin 300 to 1200 euros a one way ticket. It seems it will have some success...

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I don't think it's the way to democratisize the railway...

[Hoopy]

53 hours :eek: what countries does it pass through? passengers must need transit visas if it's passing through Belorussia and also Russians will need a few transit visas in Europe.

[KeenanRocks]

53 hours :eek: what countries does it pass through? passengers must need transit visas if it's passing through Belorussia and also Russians will need a few transit visas in Europe.


lol my friend from Ghent Belgium went home to see her mom and it took her 5 days by train to Novosibirsk:eek: A day or 2 is ok But I would be going crazy riding 5 days.. :lol:

[lizzchen]

53 hours :eek: what countries does it pass through? passengers must need transit visas if it's passing through Belorussia and also Russians will need a few transit visas in Europe.

If I get it correctly it will take this way --- Moscow - Vyazma - Smolensk - Orsha - Minsk - Brest - Terespol - Warsaw - Katowice - Zebrzydovice - Bohumín - Breclav - Vienna - Linz - Innsbruck - Bolzano - Verona - Milan - Genoa - San Remo - Bordighera - Ventimiglia - Menton - Nice.
For Russians it will need only Schengen visa. For Europeans only Russian visa :)

[Hoopy]

No, transit visa is needed for Minsk and dont think Poland is a Schengen country.

[lizzchen]

Nope. My ex hade only Russian visa and go by train from Berlin to Yekaterinburg directly :)

[lizzchen]

Poland in Schengen since 2007 :)

[pouffe]

53 hours :eek: what countries does it pass through? passengers must need transit visas if it's passing through Belorussia and also Russians will need a few transit visas in Europe.

I think it is like with a plane journey, you need the visa only for your final destination.
The train runs across 5 countries and stops in 20 stations included Brest in Belorussia (not the Brest in french Brittania).

[vitashenka]

No, transit visa is needed for Minsk and dont think Poland is a Schengen country.

Russians don't need any visa for Minsk

[Hoopy]

No but Europeans do, just like if travelling via Russia you need transit visa.

[lizzchen]

But Belarussia don't ask for transit visa if you have Russian one.

[lizzchen]

I think it is like with a plane journey, you need the visa only for your final destination.


Exactly. They will check your pass on Belarussian border, on Terespol (most unpleasent) and in Poland last time. Before 2007 they was check pass also on German border.

[pouffe]

No, transit visa is needed for Minsk and dont think Poland is a Schengen country.

You must live in an island to don't know!

[Sarah]

when one fills a migration card for Russia (passing the border in Domodedovo etc.) it is written in clear English - valid for the Russian Federation and Belorussia (copy in Russian too), so with a Russian visa one can go to Belorussia without any special permits or anything. Plus no transit visas are required for those travelling from one point to the other point. The Cold War is over (let's find another war, Westerners)

[Hoopy]

Well lets look at this realistically, it goes from Moscow, somewhere everyone wants to leave to France, a place no-one wants to be and passes through countries no-one wants to visit.

Sounds like a remake of horror express :p

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[snow_flake]

You must live in an island to don't know!

Even worse, he is from Glasgow:lol:

[Sveta's Hero]

Thats about the same as from Michigan to LA by train.

Longest train trip I ever took was from Detroit to Miami. Two and a half days, but I had the time of my life.

[Hoopy]

Not new, new but old, old service (http://en.rian.ru/world/20100926/160723893.html)

[Umka]

I took a train Ufa-Berlin once, it was kinda fun, the whole train doesn't go from Ufa, but you travel in a car that gets attached to different trains, so you never change your compartment.
The passport thingy or anything wasn't difficult, just long, as any train travel.
But I would generally chose a flight, it's so much quicker. They used to fly Ufa-Frankfurt (am Main) 2 times a week, but I think they stopped for now.
Ufa is a city where yours truly stays, when in Russia.
And yes, you only need one visa each: Schengen for Russians and Russian for the Westerners.

[CMM7]

"The Cold War is over (let's find another war, Westerners)"

Please, not. We can not afford one. :)