sex and dates

[rainy-day]

men have interesting views when it comes about women. some think a woman is slut only that she has open ideas when it comes about sex.

others have no problem about that.

how many dates you should have before getting into bed with someone without considering her a slut?

i went out some days ago with a group of friends and that problem appeared in discussion. I am curious how you see that "problem"

[Lucker]

Even though I do not practise what I think , my advice to women would be not to sleep with their new boy friend for at least two months .
And if there is strong attraction , the woman should be wily and classy enough to keep him dangling like bait on a fishing rod .

[rainy-day]

women have gained their freedom and is fine to follow your instincts as men do. in the same time the menthality is difficult to be changed and women are "free" for not even 100 years.

is normal for men to find the women too open sexually as a bit easy. if i go to bed with a guy really easy and fast, then he would wonder if i would have the same "resistance" with other men. and we have to admit, men have the property feeling developed.

on the other hand, men are the conquerers. in old times they took the sword in the hand and went to war. now this war is more psychological. men have to fight for you, a woman is a citadel which need to be conquered.

as much as they fight for something as much they will respect this something.

[RiverRock]

It depends. If she has sex with any or lots of guys then she is a slut. (Which is very un-attractive to most guys I think) If she isn't normally promiscuous but honestly gets caught up in the moment with a guy she really likes then she is not a slut. ***IMO

For attraction, it also seems to me that kind of the opposite is true for men. A guy that has lots of girls is more attractive to girls.

[rainy-day]

It depends. If she has sex with any or lots of guys then she is a slut. (Which is very un-attractive to most guys I think) If she isn't normally promiscuous but honestly gets caught up in the moment with a guy she really likes then she is not a slut. ***IMO

For attraction, it also seems to me that kind of the opposite is true for men. A guy that has lots of girls is more attractive to girls.

you don't know that girl is not promiscuous from sexual point of view. she is a decent girl, but she sleeps with you from the first date, for instance, even is not her usual way of acting.

you would still have some doubts about her, right?

[Voobrazheniye]

men have interesting views when it comes about women. some think a woman is slut only that she has open ideas when it comes about sex.

others have no problem about that.

how many dates you should have before getting into bed with someone without considering her a slut?

i went out some days ago with a group of friends and that problem appeared in discussion. I am curious how you see that "problem"

Alex, I don't think there is an easy answer to that question. It is not so much about how quickly a woman might sleep with me, but whether it is her habit to fall into bed easily and quickly with almost ANYONE. Certainly, if the situation happens that after only a date or two we make love, and if this is not the usual behavior for either of us, then it stries me more as a special passion between US, and perhaps an indication that there is a special connection that goes deeper than just passion.

But if she tends to fall into bed easily with almost anyone, then I would not think so easily that our quick move to passion was about ME or about US. Of course, sometimes we don't know a person's history so well at first, so we might not know. But it is rare that I would even meet or date someone who's personality and behavior could honestly be classified as a "slut."

I guess that most of the women I have known or been involved with were just people who had a good sense of themselves, did not have self-confidence problems, and did not fall into quick sex just as a way to feel better to to keep a guy interested. Yet most were also open-minded about sex and were not afraid to enjoy it (not all, unfortunately). So for me, that is just the description of a normal, well-adjusted person... not a "slut."

[colomoda]

Rainy Alex

Suppose a woman falls in love easily. She thought it is ok to sleep with the man she falls in love with. The next day, the man left. He breaks her heart. Few days later, she got over with it and finds new man whom she falls in love again. She sleeps with him. The following morning, the man left.......... so on. It doesn't make her 'slut' even though she slept with many men.

In my opinion, a 'slut' girl sleeps with men she doesn't intend to have any relationships with them especially with these men who seek serious relationships. It is bit like 'scammer' or 'gold digger' except for the money part. If the girl wants to sleep with many men for pleasure as long as men seek the same thing, I do not think she should be called 'slut' :confused:

The question is, why do women only called 'slut' when men aren't? It isn't fair, is it?

[RiverRock]

Yes. If I was a girl I would wait until a long enough time for the guy to prove that he really likes me and just doesn't want to use me for sex.

But really, come to think of it, people that have sex early become boyfriend and girlfriend. But if you wait too long without getting physical then you become friends. So I dunno.

What is the best amount of time to wait to have sex if you want a really good relationship with someone? Sex too early messes things up?

[rainy-day]

what about YOU guys? how many dates before?

[statajack]

Nobody is automatically a slut if they sleep with somebody on the first date. This is just stereotyping by certain groups of people.

There are psychological and biological reasons why people might get personal on a first date. Some because of insecurity, some because of biological drive, some because they genuinely feel they have found "the one", and some because they are simply seeking pleasure.

Today's society is far more liberal and promiscuous than twenty years ago. It's just a case of either accepting, or not accepting, different attitudes in modern social practice.

If you feel more comfortable holding back from early sex, nobody should shun you for this either. It's just horses for courses.

[Hoopy]

what about YOU guys? how many dates before?
Are you mean't to go on a date first? :eek:

[bobbyd]

The definition of a slut has changed over the last 40 years. I do agree with Ray in that if a woman is looking for a long term relationship she should wait awhile before she has sex with her b/f. My personal mindset tells me that jumping into bed on the first date is purely physical and won't secure anything longterm. If anything your actions will be relayed to other men looking for a one nighter.

To answer your question Alex, 3,4 dates and some kind of "this is my boyfriend" committment before you hop into bed.

[alpine-frolic]

What means exactly "slut"?

[alpine-frolic]

Well i know now, french equivalent is salope. But not used only for women having easily sex.
For me some women who are easy are not slut and some with whom you have never had sex and who have rarely sex are slut, this word has more to see with honesty than with sex!

[jimsan]

I never thought any woman I had sex with was a slut.

If a woman sleeps with you on a first date I think you should feel honoured that she thinks so highly of you to want to do this.

You cannot set a time limit for something like this, it's different for everyone and depends on so many things.

But if a woman wants sex then good luck to her, she is no different from any normal person with such desires.

[alpine-frolic]

I never thought any woman I had sex with was a slut.

If a woman sleeps with you on a first date I think you should feel honoured that she thinks so highly of you to want to do this.


And perhaps, she should feel honoured so!

[zoroooo]

men have interesting views when it comes about women. some think a woman is slut only that she has open ideas when it comes about sex.

others have no problem about that.

how many dates you should have before getting into bed with someone without considering her a slut?

i went out some days ago with a group of friends and that problem appeared in discussion. I am curious how you see that "problem"


NO MORE THAN ONE DATE AND NO PROBS;;;;DRAG HER TO YOUR BED;;IF SHE RESISTS THAN CALL ON ME;;i SELL VERRY GOOD AFRICAN CLUBS IN SOLID WOOD;:rolleyes:

[zoroooo]

ONE DAY i GOT A RUSSIAN DATE AND SHE SLEPT IN MY BED ;;ME IN ONE OTHER;; SHE ASKED TO CHAT A WHILE SHE WAS SITTING ON MY BED;;.;AFTER SOMEMINUTES SHE MOVER HER BODY AND UT HER FEET ON A WET PART OF THE BED.;i IGNORRED IT;;BUT KNEW SHE WAS DAMM READY AND HOT;;;sO WE DID IT AFTER ONLY 3 H OF MEETING;;AND SHE DAMM NEEDED IT;;;;;:becky:

sOi AM WILLING TO HELP ALWAYS AND i AM NOT MORE CATHOLIC THAN BENEDICTUS::::i BESS THEM ALL;;;THOOSE NICE GIRLS:cool:

ZORRO IN A VERRY GOOD MOOD;;;;;
SO MY DEAR NICE GIRLS DREAM DREAM OF YOUR NEXT DATE AND RELAXE THE TIMING ISNT SO IMPORTANT;;;LET IT FLOAT:faint::p:p:p

[sunontheway]

Even though I do not practise what I think , my advice to women would be not to sleep with their new boy friend for at least two months .
And if there is strong attraction , the woman should be wily and classy enough to keep him dangling like bait on a fishing rod .

Two months? Why not after a marriage? :becky:

In two months she will think:
1. You have problems with erectile function
2. You are not interested in her as a woman
3. Your intentions unclear and not serious about life together

... and as she is looking for a partner, she will more likely find another one :lol:

[krevedko]

Zorro, please don't shout. We can hear you well enogh. ;)

[zoroooo]

Zorro, please don't shout. We can hear you well enogh. ;)

talking about cliti's with a larengistis is complicated;;;


:o

[krevedko]

Zorro, I am a patient person, who can appreciate a good laugh and is not easily embarassed.
But I'd like to ask you to stop going into anatomical details of human bodies as not everyone appreciates it. And as far as I understand there's Admin lurking in the shadows with his thumb on a ban push-button with your name on it, so you might want to exercise a bit of caution - or you'll be really missed by many members of the forum. ;)

[Lonewolf74]

Two months? Why not after a marriage? :becky:

In two months she will think:
1. You have problems with erectile function
2. You are not interested in her as a woman
3. Your intentions unclear and not serious about life together

... and as she is looking for a partner, she will more likely find another one :lol:

She could also think that the man might be interested in her and in knowing her better...

V.

[kompukovboichik]

I've never considered a woman a slut... the only ones who would be sluts would be those that i am interested in, but wont sleep with me, only other men! :lol: :lol:

.... just kidding! its all about respect... if you feel good about it on the first date, go for it...

[Lucker]

.... just kidding! its all about respect... if you feel good about it on the first date, go for it...[/QUOTE]

How do you establish "respect" on a first date ?
If you can get that one sorted in a few hours ( whatever it actually means) then it cannot be a very complex and sophisticated concept , can it ?
I think your use of the word "respect" translates (to me ) as , liking , seeing no immediate problems , being friendly , striking a chord and lust .
It's a good start but don't cheapen the true meaning of "respect" imho
But if all you want is a quick burst on the Organ , quit the intellectualisation and get on with it .

[rainy-day]

i've just had a revelation about sex on the first date.

i think it doesn't actually matter when this happens. what is important is what the people want from the relationship.

if the man or the woman wants just a sexual relationship it will leave after it happens (some people can wait pretty much for this).

[bucksbunny]

I can answer this topic just with my experience and here it comes sweet ladies ..I got that truely with a nice young woman of 24.

I met on LL a nice 24Year lady from Moscow.She came to brussels and was decide she stayed at home....I gave her my bed room plus a separated bathroom and toilet.She landed from moscow end of the afternoon.

So we spent first end of the day going to a restaurantand we had smooth talks..with both pater laughs and smiles eye to eye.After the dinner we had a short nice walk home.There some thea was drunken.And time for sleeping arrived I guided her to her roo and I went to shower.

After I decided to say a goodnight and knocked on the dooor I was invited to enter.she stood up and kissed my on my cheeks and started a conversation so we sit on the bed..she talked and talked.untill she moved her body a bit and I saw a wet stain apearing under her.. to hide she put a foot on it I loked to her some closer and saw no underpant or string :)..I had inner laughs and decided to help her a bit..just a small kiss and more gong to the neck untill she felt complety backwards on the bed and and puttedher arms around my neck..I can garantuee you that the option "not the first night" was not the one..so I am not going to describe more but she was really hot and passionated ...

just a few nights later she scrashed my face too blood because of a belgian joke translated in english..

So straight sex isnt dangerious but humor be aware you can be banned....


votre serviteur


Belgian Bun.


True story

[brown-raider]

he who talks the most gets the least, that is my experience...

[bucksbunny]

he who talks the most gets the least, that is my experience...


man damm you need to be frustrated to always live in sour comment and nasty behaviour towards me...ask your wife to do someting on this

BB

[alpine-frolic]

I can answer this topic just with my experience and here it comes sweet ladies ..I got that truely with a nice young woman of 24.

I met on LL a nice 24Year lady from Moscow.She came to brussels and was decide she stayed at home....I gave her my bed room plus a separated bathroom and toilet.She landed from moscow end of the afternoon.

So we spent first end of the day going to a restaurantand we had smooth talks..with both pater laughs and smiles eye to eye.After the dinner we had a short nice walk home.There some thea was drunken.And time for sleeping arrived I guided her to her roo and I went to shower.

After I decided to say a goodnight and knocked on the dooor I was invited to enter.she stood up and kissed my on my cheeks and started a conversation so we sit on the bed..she talked and talked.untill she moved her body a bit and I saw a wet stain apearing under her.. to hide she put a foot on it I loked to her some closer and saw no underpant or string :)..I had inner laughs and decided to help her a bit..just a small kiss and more gong to the neck untill she felt complety backwards on the bed and and puttedher arms around my neck..I can garantuee you that the option "not the first night" was not the one..so I am not going to describe more but she was really hot and passionated ...

just a few nights later she scrashed my face too blood because of a belgian joke translated in english..

So straight sex isnt dangerious but humor be aware you can be banned....


votre serviteur


Belgian Bun.


True story

I have also a lot of experinces, some funny, other strange to put here, but i wonder if all this couldn't be boring in the forum.

[bucksbunny]

try it out I will say stop :becky:

[dzerassa]

Even though I do not practise what I think .

:lol2: :lol2:

[dzerassa]

Two months? Why not after a marriage? :becky:



in that case welcome to north caucasus

[snow_flake]

in that case welcome to north caucasus

::becky::lol:

But anyway - if u and Ramon meet i guess there will be no time for anything except disussing Anglo - russian relationship and politics even if he stayed there for a whole year:becky:

[dzerassa]

::becky::lol:

But anyway - if u and Ramon meet i guess there will be no time for anything except disussing Anglo - russian relationship and politics even if he stayed there for a whole year:becky:

we use forum for it :)

[dzerassa]

::becky::lol:

But anyway - if u and Ramon meet i guess there will be no time for anything except disussing Anglo - russian relationship and politics even if he stayed there for a whole year:becky:

is it what u usually do on your dates with women? :)