american presidential debate

[zoroooo]

I saw last night the debate between Mc caine and obama.

I found it borring with no clarification from Obama what he will do about IRAQ.

How did you persived the debate?

[Sveta's Hero]

I agree that it was pretty boring also. It seems McCain was stronger on foreign policy though. Obama kept stuttering whenever he was challenged. Overall it was very lackluster by both candidates, really.IMO

[IamKeenan]

Omama Showed the real reason of why he SHOULD NOT be president of our great nation:yo:

[Sveta's Hero]

It will probably be more fun to watch next weeks debate between Palin and Biden.:becky:

[zoroooo]

It will probably be more fun to watch next weeks debate between Palin and Biden.:becky:


Will xxxx the guys p?? because I am not sure she is exciting :):becky:
:cell: she just told me no strip poker at that night :mad:


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[IamKeenan]

Will xxxx the guys p?? because I am not sure she is exciting :):becky:
:cell: she just told me no strip poker at that night :mad:


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you mean no strip poker while you are around, She will with us REAL men!!!:lol:

[slkasop]

Actually reruns of CSI-NY were on Spike and were more interesting. This campaign has been going on for decades (it seems) and if most people haven't made up their minds by now they will never do so. I find it more fun to lie to pollsters. Skew the numbers.

[saprosky]

From Spain, we feel that Obama wins the first round.

Please, can someone from US send to Mr. Fried Potatoes some information about Spain ????? Where we are, who we are, ....... Thanks :yo:

[Sveta's Hero]

From Spain, we feel that Obama wins the first round.

Please, can someone from US send to Mr. Fried Potatoes some information about Spain ????? Where we are, who we are, ....... Thanks :yo:



Maybe they mixed the translation around? Obama was on the defensive quite a bit. :lol::becky:

[alpine-frolic]

Yesterday evening i was looking a thema on Arte TV about a woman who participated at building of Solidarnosc in Poland, Anna Alexandr....itch; it was not boring.

[saprosky]

Maybe they mixed the translation around? Obama was on the defensive quite a bit. :lol::becky:

Obama also was in a mistake when said Prime Minister of Spain, but corrected quickly to President. :D

[Calibret]

I don't watch anything to do with politics anymore.
Just can't see the point in watching mediocre people
telling the public what they want to hear in order to
get elected. Then they disappear until re-election.

IMHO the whole political system in the US is in need
of a drastic overhaul. The presidential election
system has become a farce. The Europeans have a
much better system. Let the majority of congress
vote on a president. Eliminates all these stupid
campaigns, you can keep a good person longer and
get rid of a moron like Bush a lot quicker.

[RiverRock]

The whole debate was about nothing. Neither one really stated their real position on anything. Obama or Mccain couldn't even hold their own on this forum, much less in a presidential debate. I guess that is what you have to do to get elected. Honest candidates who know what they believe with real ideas and answers don't make it as the democratic or republican nominee.

[zoroooo]

The whole debate was about nothing. Neither one really stated their real position on anything. Obama or Mccain couldn't even hold their own on this forum, much less in a presidential debate. I guess that is what you have to do to get elected. Honest candidates who know what they believe with real ideas and answers don't make it as the democratic or republican nominee.


maybe they should import me for spice the debate..in belgian English.:rolleyes:

[Voobrazheniye]

From Spain, we feel that Obama wins the first round.

Please, can someone from US send to Mr. Fried Potatoes some information about Spain ????? Where we are, who we are, ....... Thanks :yo:

Spain? Isn't that somewhere near Mexico? :p

[Voobrazheniye]

Maybe the debates should be more like a game show... like Jeaprody.

"Ok... time for the Lightening Round! Senator McCain, first question to you.

"Ah... Bob, I'll take 'Smash the jihadists' for $1,000."

[saprosky]

Spain? Isn't that somewhere near Mexico? :p

Typical american question. No, we are at north of Africa :neener:

[statajack]

Politicians are like fortune tellers. They talk a broad view on everything, and as such, will say at least something that all people can relate to. It's acting, playing to the crowd, and the most polished orator wins.

I find most politicians cheap, tacky, and totally untrustworthy.

[kentuckydan]

Let the majority of congress
vote on a president. Eliminates all these stupid
campaigns, .


Yes we cannot have the Lumpen Masses involved in the process
of choosing our leaders, they just confuse the issue.

That is a job for the Elite Intelligentsia.

What this country needs is

Rule by Intelectual OLIGARCHY!

[Voobrazheniye]

What the United States really needs is for voters to finally get angry enough to throw a vast majority of the incumbants out of Congress - the House AND the Senate - and put people in there who might have the guts to enact sweeping sweeping ethics reform before the well-monied special interests can get to them.

I would even vote for a GREEN party candidate if it would mean getting rid of the deadwood that's there now (although I would MUCH rather have Libertarians).

To alter Ronald Reagan's words slightly...

"Congress is not the solution to the problem, Congress IS the problem."

[huney]

Ever thought about the word 'congress'? It's the opposite of 'progress'.

Sad, but in current practice, true.

[Lucker]

Here , it was reported as a close contest with Obama deeemed to have edged it .
For me , the worrying thing was the height difference .
Mc Cain seemed a midget and perhaps this is the trend ---- wannabee Napoleons . As per Medvedev , Putin , Sarkozy and , presumably , the Chines and Japanese premiers .
Obama needs to bend his knees more .

[1amongmany]

realistically, a complete overhaul of the US goverment could never be done... there is no one that 51% of the US population trusts to change Washington

[Lucker]

He died years ago . And he was a liar -- said he never lied

[bobbyd]

Last week in the US a major bank tumbled into the dust holding 305 billion dollars of assets.

Neither of the candidates had an answer for a "bailout" or a different option. Both candidates skirted the questions on economics and obviously preferred to wait and see what happens today or tomorrow. If either had shown any iniative they could have walked away with the election. imho.

On Foreign Policy, McCain-Napoleon was a clear winner.

[Lucker]

OK , Bobby Vee ( have you been away recording ? )
And what if they got it wrong ?
Then it would be like one of your greatest hits --- Night of a thousand eyes .

[dzerassa]

Omama Showed the real reason of why he SHOULD NOT be president of our great nation:yo:

i saw on cnn that polls afer the debates in favour of obama

[Lucker]

If that's what Jurassic saw , then it must have been a tampered FSB version .
But which way are they thinking ?
Are they helping create a false favourite or looking for a Napoleon Mc Cain sympathy vote .
Your Post has made the election much more complex

[dzerassa]

ramon, sorry for off top. do i understand correct from recent news that there a few big companies in the uk which will be nationalized by state? welcome to communism comrades :yo:

[Hoopy]

What is happening is there are 2 banks,Northern Rock and Bradford and Bingley...the goverment is taking them over because they are going to crash..what the goverment will do is sell off the assets and keep all the mortgages so it's far from nationalisation.

[kentuckydan]

:butcher:Here I think is a reasonable recap of the Debate, by an Obama supporter, which fact never ceases to amaze me. I have been reading this guy for years and we agree on a whole lot of issues. I keep waiting for him to disown the Darkside.

The Debate (http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/the_debate.php)

by Armed Liberal at September 27, 2008 5:26 PM

So I watched most of the debate at the hotel bar - with about 100 other people (it was a full house and I was sitting on the floor with a few dozen others).

Overall, meh. My comment to TG was that neither of the candidates melted into green goo on camera, meaning that each of them managed not to screw up badly enough to cost them the election.

And I realized that that's kind of a metaphor for how this election is running - each candidate desperate not to screw the pooch, playing defensively and probing for weaknesses rather than making full-throated claims about what they are, believe in, and where they want to take the country. That's massively depressing to me, because it seems like we've lost what each of them brought to the table that made them good candidates in the first place.

My support for Obama is still strongly there, if eroded (more by his issues with free speech and my disdain for many of his supporters than anything else). I'll do a post this week explaining why, and explaining why the audience of a hawkish blog like this ought to reconsider their kneejerk support for McCain.

But searching deep in my reactions to Obama's performance last night, I didn't remotely see anything in his performance that could make me - or anyone who's not already drunk his Kool-Aid - an enthusiast.

McCain's opportunity here was to knock Obama out of the game, to make him "um" and "uh" and show that his smooth, intelligent, oratory isn't matched by an ability to think in real time. Didn't happen. McCain also need to come across as more appealing - to be the warm, funny, self-depricating retired fighter jock that is the core of his attractive self. Instead we got the moralizing, self-righteous scold who is much less likely to connect with voters in a personal way.

I have other problems with this election right now; we're descending into a real 19th century kind of blind partisanship, and the odds that we'll be able to unite the country behind either candidate seem lower every day. Whoever wins, the partisans on the other side will be enraged and uncooperative - with the right blaming (justifiably, I think) the Obama-swooning press, and the left blaming vague Rovian conspiracies (a lawyer at dinner last night explained to me - in all seriousness - that Rove has 'anointed' Palin, and that the whole point of this election is to get her in position to take over from McCain next year. I'm afraid that I giggled a bit in response, but he liked sailing so we managed to have a civil conversation anyway).

We deserve better. To be honest, these two candidates are better men than they are showing us in this campaign. What's wrong with them, with us, with our politics?


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