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[Lucker]

Pope 'has no UK arrest immunity'

Plans to have the Pope arrested when he visits the UK will succeed because he is not a head of state, a solicitor has said. And when he is found guilty , let's publicly flog him in the name of God , says lovely Mister Ramey .And we will put a crown of thorns on him and name him the Devil's Child .
Well , it's an opinion .


The writers' solicitor Mark Stephens said applications will be made to courts in the UK and the International Criminal Court for a warrant for Pope Benedict XVI's arrest.

His likely defence would be be that he is immune from prosecution during his visit to Britain in September, according to the lawyer.

Mr Stephens said: "The courts will examine the claim of immunity. I believe that an English court would reject it. If the Pope was here on a state visit, ordinarily a head of state would have sovereign immunity. What I believe is that because he's not a sovereign, not a head of state, he's not entitled to the defence."

He said that the Vatican was declared to be a state by Benito Mussolini, but this had no standing in international law.

The Pope faced criticism after it emerged that he signed a letter which delayed the punishment of a paedophile priest in the US for the "good of the universal church".

Writing in 1985, the future Pontiff said that he needed more time to consider the case.

Mr Stephens, who has represented abuse victims in the past said: "This will require the Pope to deal with the way in which he appears to have prioritised the reputation of the Catholic church over the welfare of children."

Potential charges against the Pope would be crimes against humanity.

[Hoopy]

Ramon look at the case of one of the biggest mass murderers in recent times arrested in the UK, Pinochet, he should have been handed to the Spanish authorities to receive the Chilles (excuse the pun) up the bum or whatever else it is the Spanish do.

[pouffe]

Ah the good time with Pinochet, allways remind me a chili con carne. He was very much apreciated by north americans at his time...

[kentuckydan]

Ah the good time with Pinochet, allways remind me a chili con carne. He was very much apreciated by north americans at his time...

I have noticed the Bloody reprisals of the Castro Regime against the Cuban Compenseros are completely ignored by others

Odd since it was the longest and must brutally put down guerilla war in the western hemisphere

Pinochet could not hold a candle to Castro

[Beemer]

The Vatican has nation status. If he has diplomatic privileges, no law abiding country will do anything illegal. The UK arrests no-one unless its worth money to do so. Anyway, we couldn't even arrest Blair!!

Personally, My favourite mass murderers are parents. Just because they had sex, someone will eventually end up dead.

[Lucker]

Dennis ,
Which joke book of the year are you using ?
Have you noticed that your excruciating joke is a disguised form of 2+2 =4 ?
One side of the equation is the definition of the other side in terms of forced consequence .

[Beemer]

Knowing what a pitiful set of treasonable, jellied kneed set of spineless back stabbers we have running this nation....... I see your point.

p.s. Who has the pope shagged?

[Lucker]

Elton John definitely .
Tony Blair probably .
And Heinz Schiller from 43 Konig Strasse , Vienna

[Beemer]

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?278162-Tony-Blair-covered-up-pedophile-scandal-while-PM

http://www.tpuc.org/node/34

Blah, blah, Blair :mad:

[Shadow-off]

Things for thought. Did the pope commit child abuse himself ?
Are all Catholics bad ?
Could it be possible that the priest that committed the acts did so to disgrace the Catholic church?
I think there are two issues going on under the same intent. To castrate the pedophile priest justifiably and to destroy the catholic faith anyway possible. It's not right to destroy an organization because a minuscule fraction of members decide they want to commit criminal acts. All organizations of any kind would all be closed tomorrow. I don't care what organization exists corruption exists in it.

[Shadow-off]

I'm not intending to harass or ridicule Ramonrive with this post but rather to get you to see the value of ethics.

This is interesting. Consider this. The Pope obviously in some way supported the criminal actions of one of it's priests and probably there have been other Catholic priests and other churches that have committed crimes against children. One that comes to mind is that church group that went on an aid mission to rescue Haitian children after the earthquake where in actuality kidnapping of children happened. In essence we can say the members of some religions have committed acts against children.
Now can we say all non-religious people and groups never commit acts against children ? If you can't then both groups are committing crime.

In the local paper here there was a writ some guy published in the "write to the editor" section. His argument was that the law protects the criminals. I felt like responding and saying " Have you committed a crime of intent?" Probably he would have responded "No I'm not a criminal." at which point I would have responded that he is a liar. Even without knowing this person and most people I can assume most of us are in fact criminals that break the law with intent. In every country there are laws, some of them are road laws. So who here always intends to drive the speed limit ? I don't do it every time and I drive above the posted speed limit except at school zones and when it rains like cats and dogs. We are in fact criminals because we knowingly break the law of a posted speed limit with intent to do so. In the world of law you are either a criminal or completely not a criminal ethically there is no middle. Trying won't help.

So what does this all mean/ It means that if your condemning a group the group that is condemning has to be prefect and righteous. In this case the villain is the catholic church and christian members being compared to a non-christian global populative group. Neither are without condemnation.

If the Pope CONDONES the actions of a pedophile priest he is wrong to do it; not catholic religion and every christian. If the pope doesn't condone the actions of the pedophile priest then the pedophile priest is wrong and only him.

[Beemer]

Years back I heard a couple of horrors committed by the the religious Jewish sect. Then all of a sudden all this about Catholic priests was released by the media.

Now you don't have to call me a conspiracy nut. But it might help if it makes you feel better :-D

[Shadow-off]

Personally I do not adopt a religion; I believe in God and the bible. Religions sometimes develop and practice things more fitting to their own benefit than simply belief in God.

[statajack]

Personally I do not adopt a religion; I believe in God and the bible. Religions sometimes develop and practice things more fitting to their own benefit than simply belief in God.

Surely, if you adopt god and the bible, then your religion is Christianity. :ranger:

Do you mean that you haven't adopted a church?

[Shadow-off]

Correct I am a christian and I am respectful of other religions that worship God.
I more correctly should have said, I don't adopt a faith. Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, ect.

All religions worship God that are religions in my opinion.
Many churches in many faiths give me the impression that their priest or pastor is God to them, when in fact he has no more influence with God than members of the church.

[Beemer]

I'm one of the 1/3 million of Brit citizens who are Jedii on the 2001 census form.
Jesus was one.

The rest is just big business.

[pouffe]

The Vatican has nation status. If he has diplomatic privileges, no law abiding country will do anything illegal. The UK arrests no-one unless its worth money to do so. Anyway, we couldn't even arrest Blair!!

Personally, My favourite mass murderers are parents. Just because they had sex, someone will eventually end up dead.

In my side i vote for condoms.

[Beemer]

Pouffe,
Ladies are born murderers. If you wish to keep a good lady you must accept that one day she will wish some(one) to die someday.

Ramond. Still stuck on 2+2=4 as a purely Newtonian concept. Happy as a fish :)