america and the copernic solution

[zoroooo]

The political field in the us is split betwen reps and demos...I european standards all are liberals.. from wild liberals and social ones..social dont see in that as we have here...understand thats not a judgement of value.

Both parties are in turmoil...the republicans proposing in fact a nationalitation of the financial sector ...a socialist way of intervention...but that for the rich.. and the democrats trying to save their maybe future presidency...


that in a special athomphere were MC CAINE admits that the Bush governement is and was corrupt....so my fellows rep friends ..dan and fifibob..remember your speaches glorifying master Bush..
Let me enjoy a bit your failiure of analizes during thoose 3 years of LL. you champ mc caine admit your corrupt governement.

But I am not enjoying the probs of a ordinary american smashed or gona be smashed to pay for the ultra liberal policies. thats strugle for life.


Now copernicus and how to keep the idiology and been fair for your fellow citizens.


Bush lost control off .

zorozoro

[Mnguy2007]

The political field in the us is split betwen reps and demos...I european standards all are liberals.. from wild liberals and social ones..social dont see in that as we have here...understand thats not a judgement of value.

Both parties are in turmoil...the republicans proposing in fact a nationalitation of the financial sector ...a socialist way of intervention...but that for the rich.. and the democrats trying to save their maybe future presidency...


that in a special athomphere were MC CAINE admits that the Bush governement is and was corrupt....so my fellows rep friends ..dan and fifibob..remember your speaches glorifying master Bush..
Let me enjoy a bit your failiure of analizes during thoose 3 years of LL. you champ mc caine admit your corrupt governement.

But I am not enjoying the probs of a ordinary american smashed or gona be smashed to pay for the ultra liberal policies. thats strugle for life.


Now copernicus and how to keep the idiology and been fair for your fellow citizens.


Bush lost control off .

zorozoro

McCain could have said the same about the democrats and it would be just as true.
He could say the same about all politics around the world and it would be true.
So what is the breaking news here?:noidea:

[zoroooo]

McCain could have said the same about the democrats and it would be just as true.
He could say the same about all politics around the world and it would be true.
So what is the breaking news here?:noidea:

that he said it about his own party..

[pouffe]

McCain could have said the same about the democrats and it would be just as true.
He could say the same about all politics around the world and it would be true.
So what is the breaking news here?:noidea:

The general collapse of US economy. The demonstration about this wrong economic system that prevailed in 20 century is well done now. It couldn't survive more than few years in new century! It dies from his own failure...

[Lucker]

You don't let anything die until you have something better to replace it .
A lot of you write as though the best thing that can happen is to see the US fall over the cliff edge .
But if it does , " you" will go with it .
And if you can see yourself being ruled by any of the others , then you are braver and more stupid than me , Gunga Din .

[huney]

Part One
EfBURwloHsk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfBURwloHsk)

Part Two
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A lot of this is reactionary, but there are seeds for concern


Congressman Ron Paul says that the bailout bill is likely to pass, heralding a 10-year plus economic depression for America and the potential for martial law should civil unrest arise as the financial meltdown worsens.

Speaking on The Alex Jones Show, Paul said of the bailout, "They want dictatorship, they want to pass all the penalties and suffering on to the average person on Main Street," adding, "We will have a depression or recession, it's locked in place due to previous Federal Reserve actions."

"When they say that if we don't do exactly as they say and turn over more of our money and more of our liberties and exempt themselves from any court in the whole nation, they're trying to intimidate us and lead us into doing the wrong thing," said Paul.

The Congressman added that serious problems would arise if nothing was done to address the problem, but that more serious consequences would follow should the bailout be passed.

Paul warned that the only question was whether the meltdown would last one year or ten years and how much liberty would be lost in that time frame.

"It looks like from I see in Congress, that they're opting for a decade plus of depression rather than saying let's correct our ways, let's balance the budget, let's bring our troops home," said Paul, adding that the same course of printing money would continue - prolonging the agony and preventing a necessary correction.

Asked if civil unrest was a possibility in the midst of an economic depression, referencing a recent Army Times report (http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-troops-in-homeland-crowd-control-patrols-from-october-1st.html)concerning the use of active duty military being brought back from Iraq for "Homeland patrols" and "crowd control," Paul questioned, "Are we going to have martial law or are we going to have more freedoms? The more problems that we have, the more likely it is that we're going to have martial law, so I do think they anticipate and they plan for these things."

Asked if criminal investigations and prosecutions of individuals on Wall Street should commence, Paul agreed but said that the main target of criminal inquiry should be the Federal Reserve board itself because, "That's where the fraud is."
"They want to be lawless, they don't want to be held accountable," he added.
Paul said that grand juries should be convened to take on prosecutions rather than the FBI becoming involved, stating, "We have proper authority with that and experience with it and the Enron case is a good example."

The Congressman said that Greenspan and Bernanke should be criminally charged but that such an effort would be largely symbolic. "Morally speaking, they're the culprits," said Paul.

Asked what his solution to the crisis would be, Paul said, "I think the most important thing to do is to send the message that we're going to quit living beyond our means and the president can set the standard for that and he has the most control under the Constitution on foreign policy - he can say no more wars, we're done with the wars, we're not going to take on the Russians, we're not going to take on people in Venezuela, we're going to start talking to the Cubans and bring our troops home and save hundreds of billions of dollars - that would send a powerful message that the dollar would respond to and oil prices would come down."

Paul said that Americans had to accept a new idea of government that harked back to what the founders envisaged and that the welfare state would have to unravel along with aspirations of building a geopolitical empire.

"In the meantime the policy ought to be - shrink the size of government, decrease regulation, work towards sound money, remove the authority of the Fed to create money out of thin air and get tax reduction," stated the Congressman. Paul added that eliminating the income tax would mean everybody becoming a lot richer and more money would be ploughed into the economy.

"It will not solve the problem, it just delays the inevitable," said Paul of the bailout, adding that he expects the bill to pass in a move that would, "Defy the American people."

"I think they get to the point where they think they're like God and can control everything and they don't realize that the market really is more powerful than all the bankers and all the politicians....Ultimately the underground economy is the real economy and I think they could over step themselves and hopefully we could come out with a better world afterwards," concluded the Congressman.

[statajack]

God....... he's a depressing bloke !! Let's just talk ourselves into negativity, it's easier to predict.