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Lucker
10-23-2009, 03:05 PM
Could President Saakashvili add an Oscar to his list of International honours and growing reputation ?
With his film star looks and near faultless English , Mikhail the Brave could have played himself but Andy Garcia should be a first rate stand in .
I wonder if Moscow has plans to give the film the red carpet treatment or will they choke on their Borsch ?





TBILISI, Georgia — Tens of thousands of cheering people filled the streets in front of Georgia’s parliament, but they came to make a movie, not stage one of the capital’s frequent mass demonstrations.

Tuesday night’s crowd gathered for a scene in a new Hollywood film about the 2008 Russia-Georgia war, with the working title “Georgia,” in which movie star Andy Garcia plays Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili.

The filmmakers have said they aren’t making propaganda, but the movie seems certain to figure in the ongoing struggle between Russia and Georgia over how their short war is remembered.

Garcia, mimicking the gestures of the sometimes emotional Georgian president, spoke to the crowd during a re-creation of a real demonstration that took place Aug. 12, 2008, toward the end of active fighting.

Mock demonstrators carried banners reading “Russian Troops Get Out of Georgia,” while actors playing the presidents of Poland and the Baltic States appeared on a stage in support of Garcia as Saakashvili.

The Russian media have questioned whether director Renny Harlin’s film will take the Georgian side in portraying the conflict.

A recent Russian film used the fictional story of a nerdy American scientist and a blonde Russian photojournalist to offer the Kremlin’s version of the war.

Harlin, best known for “Die Hard 2” and “Cliffhanger,” has said the tale of a journalist and cameraman caught up in the fighting is an impartial indictment of war.

Harlin said on Tuesday that the movie will have a universal appeal.

“I am from a small country myself — I am from Finland originally — so I know what kind of things small countries can sometimes go through,” he said. “These kind of wars are fought around the world from Africa to Asia to South America. Georgia is just one example. I think it is a great opportunity to tell the universal story that touches a lot of people around the world.”

Harlin said Garcia, who stared in “The Godfather: Part III” and “The Untouchables,” was his first choice for the role of Saakashvili.

“It was my dream from the beginning,” Harlin said. “When I started on this film a few months ago, I said Andy Garcia has to play the president and when I gave him a script and he heard about it, he said he absolutely thought it was a great role for him.”

Producer George Lasku described Garcia as enthusiastic about the film.

“He is of Cuban origin and his country and his people went pretty much through the same pain for the last 50 or so years,” Lasku said. “He was very enthusiastic. He found the president to be a very interesting character to portray and he is thrilled to be here.”

Several people in the crowd outside parliament Tuesday said they hoped the film would rally international support behind Georgia.

elane-ellie
10-23-2009, 03:18 PM
Could President Saakashvili add an Oscar to his list of International honours and growing reputation ?


Yes, he could. And he even can. If someone is interested in cheap widespread popularity, that list would be endless.

Lucker
10-23-2009, 04:00 PM
Jelly ,
Popularity cannot be bought -- it is neither cheap or expensive . It is given freely to those who deserve it --- like Mikhail the Brave :

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elane-ellie
10-23-2009, 04:43 PM
Jelly ,
Popularity cannot be bought -- it is neither cheap or expensive . It is given freely to those who deserve it --- like Mikhail the Brave :

p


Ray,
I said what I said and I do think so.
The rest is a merely sophistry. And knowing how good you are in this sort of discussions, I better make a concession.

But the cold war hasn't ended yet, if will ever end. The filmmakers have said they aren’t making propaganda, No, not at all!!!!! :rolleyes: It is just a kind of circus, but much less funny than Monthy Python. :rolleyes:

Sniffer
10-23-2009, 04:53 PM
You don't read the News Ray?
When Soderbergh called him the first time A.Garcia was very excited with this project.
Excited to go back to Atlanta and play again with Julia.
He even bought his ticket!
Unfortunately Steven explained to him that it was Tbilissi, Georgia and not Atlanta.
He was so disappointed...
Anyway, Mr. Bean seems to be free ... if it can help .....

Lucker
10-23-2009, 05:05 PM
Jelly ,
I thought you would be the one person who would immediately see the potentially great Artistic and Symbolic fruits of this ripe project .
Here we have the classic David and Goliath scenario packed into the even greater drama of Good versus Evil and raw strength versus presence of mind .
As an Artist I thought you above all would respond to the life tensions of these timeless struggles .
I rest , a disappointed man .

Lucker
10-23-2009, 05:29 PM
Yes , Sniper ,
You are right to remind us of the comical aspects .
Who can forget the Russian conscripts kicking their tanks when they refused to move ?
And then there was ( Lavvy ) Sergei Lavrov - whom John Cleese might portray , who swore down the phone for ten minutes when talking to our Foreign Minister .
And , of course , there was the wise and philosophical Gangmaster who wanted to hang Prince Mikhail by his testicles .
Oh , what fun !

elane-ellie
10-23-2009, 05:44 PM
Jelly ,
I thought you would be the one person who would immediately see the potentially great Artistic and Symbolic fruits of this ripe project .
Here we have the classic David and Goliath scenario packed into the even greater drama of Good versus Evil and raw strength versus presence of mind .
As an Artist I thought you above all would respond to the life tensions of these timeless struggles .
I rest , a disappointed man .


Ray,
I also thought, you, a refined man, prefer art to a booth farce.. i.e. a puppet show has nothing to do with that infinite Good and Evil matter, I presume.
Coffee time.
A tied up kiddie… oh.. my poor English.. a tired but not retired yet woman.. kidding

Lucker
10-23-2009, 06:10 PM
Jelly ,
I understand that the closeness of Security prying eyes forces you to respond in this dispiriting way .
However , don't underestimate the powerful force of Puppet story telling -- see Chinese tradition . And it's the basis of all Russian decentralisation ,----Medvedev and Kadyrov to mention just twelve .

Sarah
10-27-2009, 10:45 AM
You are all funny! Do you really think the Hollywood decided to shoot this movie just to honor our wonderful Michael??? No - I bet that Michael sponsored the idea and now everybody in the world will see the tie-eater.

Lucker
10-27-2009, 11:41 AM
He looks like a James Bond ---- urbane , sophisticated and good looking .
An ideal Goody .
Pitted against him are Lavvy Lavrov the psycho Man Bear and the Evil Dwarf .

It's a great hit in any language and if Michael the Brave happens to have a good voice , I see Michael Mania being one of next year's highlights .
He is a natural to advertise men's clothes and if we can get him to bite off the head of a toy Bear , it will fit in beautifully with the symbolic significance of his great tie chewing performances .

Koshka
10-27-2009, 11:46 AM
He looks like a James Bond .

Do you want to say James Bond ate tie?
In which film?

Sarah
10-27-2009, 11:46 AM
He looks like a James Bond ---- urbane , sophisticated and good looking ..


It is a surprise that someone finds Andy good looking, but it is ok with me... :lol:

Koshka
10-27-2009, 12:12 PM
It is a surprise that someone finds Andy good looking, but it is ok with me... :lol:

have you ever heard that a handsome man it is a man a little more handsome than crocodile?

Lucker
10-27-2009, 01:01 PM
Do you want to say James Bond ate tie?
In which film?


No .
I don't WANT to say anything .
But I did actually say he has Bond type good looks whether or not he is wearing a tie .
Eating his tie shows Prince Michael has appetites and deep aggression toward Lavvy Lavrov , the Human Bear .

Koshka
10-27-2009, 01:03 PM
No .
I don't WANT to say anything .
But I did actually say he has Bond type good looks .

Do you mean Sean Connery?

Lucker
10-27-2009, 01:17 PM
Miss Numpty ,
It is a general comment .
It is a concept proposition

But if you have to be literal -- a young Roger Moore or Pierce Brosnan or Ramon .

Koshka
10-27-2009, 01:45 PM
a young Ramon .

Ramosh, you must show us photos of young Ramon, it is your duty to us

PS. Young Roger Moore is amusing, but Pierce Brosnan have too much sugar for me

what about Timothy Dalton?

Koshka
10-27-2009, 02:02 PM
Miss Numpty

Oops, misprint. Be carefully!
I guess, you wanted to type Miss Nymph, my gallant English friend.

Koshka
10-27-2009, 02:43 PM
Michael and Andy

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