The Biggest Question....Do Honest women exist??

[pavement23]

Do Honest women Exist??

Now do honest women exist?? That is a bigger question? Because I can not see many honest ladies. They will lie and play to gain all that they can and even when they have it all, still lie, play and manipulate.

Or maybe I just get involved with the wrong ones.

I have heard of women who will take money for vacations, then either do not go, or take the money and go away with others. Ladies who will go away with men to marry, then after they have had a good time, throw it all back at them.

To some ladies, lies and games are all they know. Dishonesty is all their lives are, use people against each other for their own gains. The silly thing is men allow this, because everyman wants to think he is the special one, not knowing that they are all told the same thing! How dumb we can be!

The smarter the women the bigger the games and the longer the lies.

I Write this from bitter expierence, having been with the most dishonest of them all. My own fault. But when i hear all this about dishonest men, it makes me laugh, because the biggest liers and players I have met have women.

I would like to hear replies to this.......


I wish I could write some of the lies and promises I have received from ladies, they would open many eyes and I am sure there are many men out there who have heard the same thing. But for now i am happy just to start this thread to see what others have to say on the topic.

Just be careful for all the lies and misinformation which I am sure will be written here, so of these ladies are smart!

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[sunontheway]

But when i hear all this about dishonest men, it makes me laugh, because the biggest liers and players I have met have women.


If you have no luck with women, maybe you should try men then...? :becky:

[RiverRock]

What happened to "my Russia"? Wasn't Moscow heaven?

pavement23: They will lie and play to gain all that they can and even when they have it all, still lie, play and manipulate.

That is only when it comes to lots of money or a permanent resident card to a western country. Other than that they will always tell you the truth. It is justifiable though because men are dumb and deserve it.

So denounce your British citizenship and give away all your money and there will be no justification to lie to you anymore.

[fbibob]

My wife is a very lovely and honest Siberian lady. And so are many other wonderful ladies here (LL). Just talk long enough with the one you are interested in to learn if her interest in you is genuine.

I continue to be surprised when I look at the list of who is on-line and I see so many exellent ladies that seem to be still waiting to be noticed.

[Voobrazheniye]

Do Honest women Exist??

Now do honest women exist?? That is a bigger question? Because I can not see many honest ladies. They will lie and play to gain all that they can and even when they have it all, still lie, play and manipulate.

Or maybe I just get involved with the wrong ones.

I have heard of women who will take money for vacations, then either do not go, or take the money and go away with others. Ladies who will go away with men to marry, then after they have had a good time, throw it all back at them.

To some ladies, lies and games are all they know. Dishonesty is all their lives are, use people against each other for their own gains. The silly thing is men allow this, because everyman wants to think he is the special one, not knowing that they are all told the same thing! How dumb we can be!

Sorry, pavement, but as I read this, all I can think of is that any man who is foolish - or DESPERATE - enough to give the money for the vacations, or do any of the other things for such a woman just invites his own misery. Sure, there are dishonest women, but the proportion is no greater than with men.

It almost always is the guy who got taken because of his own lack or common sense, desperation, and denial about himself who yells the loudest and most often about dishonesty, scammers, etc. After several years in the LL forum (and now here), this is so clearly obvious.

Sure, we all get mislead from time to time, and all of us have fallen victim to someone - male or female - who is genuinely dishonest. But most of us have the sense to look at ourselves first and fix whatever it was we were doing that got us into that situation. We learn from it and we are more successful the next time to find honesty.

The ones who always complain that there are "no honest women" and the ones who can't find an honest women because they are not honest about themselves and, therefore, keep going for the wrong girls. We create our own realities based on our own thoughts and feelings. If you believe everyone is dishonest, then guess what you will keep attracting to yourself.

[pavement23]

Sorry, pavement, but as I read this, all I can think of is that any man who is foolish - or DESPERATE - enough to give the money for the vacations, or do any of the other things for such a woman just invites his own misery. Sure, there are dishonest women, but the proportion is no greater than with men.

It almost always is the guy who got taken because of his own lack or common sense, desperation, and denial about himself who yells the loudest and most often about dishonesty, scammers, etc. After several years in the LL forum (and now here), this is so clearly obvious.

Sure, we all get mislead from time to time, and all of us have fallen victim to someone - male or female - who is genuinely dishonest. But most of us have the sense to look at ourselves first and fix whatever it was we were doing that got us into that situation. We learn from it and we are more successful the next time to find honesty.

The ones who always complain that there are "no honest women" and the ones who can't find an honest women because they are not honest about themselves and, therefore, keep going for the wrong girls. We create our own realities based on our own thoughts and feelings. If you believe everyone is dishonest, then guess what you will keep attracting to yourself.

I am sure I never wrote all women are dishonest...... or that there are no honest women on here.

I sure I also never wrote that I was taken in vacation scam, I only know of others who have been.

There are many beautiful and honest ladies in this world and on LL, that is of no doubt (and I am happily with one now), but that does not change the fact that many men have been taken for a ride.

[Hoopy]

but that does not change the fact that many men have been taken for a ride. I want taken for a ride,any women want to volunteer:rolleyes:

[huney]

I want taken for a ride,any women want to volunteer:rolleyes:

Me!

Further, I promise to always tell the truth except when I'm lying to protect your ego. Especially when I tell you that I simply adore green type, my favorite drink is beer, my favorite sport is football, and most especially when I tell you that dogs are God's gift to the human race.

I really do believe the part about dogs ;)

[snow_flake]

Do Honest women Exist?? [/I]


Yes, sure they exist. You will find honest blondines, brunettes, darkhaired:love:(my favorite ), redhairs ,greyhaired and even bald ones.

And unlucky for you - there also exist haircolor:becky:

[statajack]

Me!

Further, I promise to always tell the truth except when I'm lying to protect your ego. Especially when I tell you that I simply adore green type, my favorite drink is beer, my favorite sport is football, and most especially when I tell you that dogs are God's gift to the human race.

I really do believe the part about dogs ;)

Oohh I see an alterior motive here. You're actually after his train set. :becky:

[huney]

Oohh I see an alterior motive here. You're actually after his train set. :becky:
He has a train set? What a novel idea!

[Crushik]

All the woman are the deceitful witches....:lol: :lol: did you wanna to hear this ? :lol: :becky:

[pavement23]

All the woman are the deceitful witches....:lol: :lol: did you wanna to hear this ? :lol: :becky:

That is perfect.... just what i was looking for......:becky:

[sunontheway]

... my favorite sport is football...

Huney careful, don't make mistakes... when you are suddenly waken up at night, you should name the right team :cheer2:

[Lucky]

Huney careful, don't make mistakes... when you are suddenly waken up at night, you should name the right team :cheer2:

:lol2::bounce::lol2:

[krevedko]

Huney careful, don't make mistakes... when you are suddenly waken up at night, you should name the right team :cheer2:

which is GOOOOOOOOO RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!! :becky::becky::becky:

[Hoopy]

:ban: :flood:

[huney]

which is GOOOOOOOOO RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!! :becky::becky::becky:

Only when I want to be kicked out into the snow!

Better to say something like ...ooooohh...baby, can we do that again :becky:

[foxy00]

ofcourse they excist. HOwever, you need ot consider very carefully of the type of women you are seeking. maybe its the type that are dishonest. are you aiming well beyond what is fair an reasonable.

[krevedko]

Only when I want to be kicked out into the snow!

Better to say something like ...ooooohh...baby, can we do that again :becky:


Logical, I admit. :)
But Huney, are you sure that when you talk football with Hoppy both of you are referring to the same subj? :megalol:

[huney]

Logical, I admit. :)
But Huney, are you sure that when you talk football with Hoppy both of you are referring to the same subj? :megalol:

Dear, a goal is a goal. Who cares how many points they get for it as long as I'm warm and get my feet rubbed once in a while? :lol:

[alpine-frolic]

[COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]Sorry, pavement, but as I read this, all I can think of is that any man who is foolish - or DESPERATE - enough to give the money for the vacations, or do any of the other things for such a woman just invites his own misery. Sure, there are dishonest women, but the proportion is no greater than with men.

It almost always is the guy who got taken because of his own lack or common sense, desperation, and denial about himself who yells the loudest and most often about dishonesty, scammers, etc. After several years in the LL forum (and now here), this is so clearly obvious.

Sure, we all get mislead from time to time, and all of us have fallen victim to someone - male or female - who is genuinely dishonest. But most of us have the sense to look at ourselves first and fix whatever it was we were doing that got us into that situation. We learn from it and we are more successful the next time to find honesty.



So you are saying that if you want to discover a scammer i have only to invite her to visit Paris, and if she accepts my money for the travel she is one?
OMG, the bullet ran so near, the hat fell. Oh ...

[Lucky]

no, they dont :brushteeth:

im the proof :yo:

[Calibret]

Sure men lie. There may be a few honest ones around
like me.:yo:
But I think the explanation is that if they told the truth
they wouldn't get what they want and it would cost them
in a big way, either finacially or emotionally.:nono:

[ANGELOLGA]

Девы, сознавайтесь, кто это так обидел Билли?;)

[ANGELOLGA]

When I read about The Biggist Question I remember about Dr Freud:eek:
Why not The Mainest Question or The Most Important Question?:yo:

[alenika]

no, they dont :brushteeth
im the proof :yo:
You are far from being proof ::nono::couch2:

[brown-raider]

some guy's are just meant to be all day suckers!:cool:

[second_life]

...honest women exist, I am a living proof like lots of other nice ladies here.
Not everybody feels comfortable with honesty as it implies also the honesty of being mirrored in a partner and the reflection of own behaviour.

And it`s definitely bxxxshxt that the smarter the more lies. The smarter you get the more you just decide you can also do without somebody if it`s not the perfect fit ;)

[bobbyd]

no, they dont :brushteeth:

im the proof :yo:

can I send u money? Where do you wish to go on vacation?

[colomoda]

Pavement

If you are talking about Russian women, you are lucky! Try Colombian women and compare! :)

[zoroooo]

no no non nee njet

[rainy-day]

the question is: does honest people exist? if you can answer with a YES, then the conclusion is very simple: if there are honest people then, there are honest women and men. it's logic.

[kentuckydan]

Do Honest women Exist??

Now do honest women exist?? That is a bigger question? Because I can not see many honest ladies. They will lie and play to gain all that they can and even when they have it all, still lie, play and manipulate.

Or maybe I just get involved with the wrong ones.

I have heard of women who will take money for vacations, then either do not go, or take the money and go away with others. Ladies who will go away with men to marry, then after they have had a good time, throw it all back at them.

To some ladies, lies and games are all they know. Dishonesty is all their lives are, use people against each other for their own gains. The silly thing is men allow this, because everyman wants to think he is the special one, not knowing that they are all told the same thing! How dumb we can be!

The smarter the women the bigger the games and the longer the lies.

I Write this from bitter expierence, having been with the most dishonest of them all. My own fault. But when i hear all this about dishonest men, it makes me laugh, because the biggest liers and players I have met have women.

I would like to hear replies to this.......


I wish I could write some of the lies and promises I have received from ladies, they would open many eyes and I am sure there are many men out there who have heard the same thing. But for now i am happy just to start this thread to see what others have to say on the topic.

Just be careful for all the lies and misinformation which I am sure will be written here, so of these ladies are smart!

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Now do honest men exist?? That is a bigger question? Because I can not see many honest ladies. They will lie and play to gain all that they can and even when they have it all, still lie, play and manipulate.


The answer to both questions is of course yes. Of course the opposite exists too, that is what you get with human beings, unlike robots who are programmed with the Three Laws.

For every horror story about scheming women there is probably one about a man.

Let me share one of the worst I have heard over the years. It was posted on a forum by RWL by an Agency OWNER.

That is important, it was not posted by the Girl, but by an American who owned an Introduction Agency

It seems one of his clients called him up hysterical, she had been waiting all day at the airport in her best clothes, with flowers and balloons for her guy to arrive, who never did,

She thought something terrible had happened to him.

Well it turns out that he had the option of visiting two women in two different cities and decided to visit the other one.

And never bothered to tell her he was not coming.

What a slime.,

I believe if one looks hard enough one will discover that moral degeneracy is not gender specific,