From Chechnya with love (photos)

[CurlyDarling]

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The airport in Grozniy
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Near the cinema. There are a lot of policemen in the city.
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National meal-calf, lamb with galushki from corn flour, manty
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Citizens of Grozniy
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[CurlyDarling]

Grozniy is a very clean city. It's considered a great sin to be dirty or to keep your house, village or city dirty.
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In the hospital
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Portraits of State leaders are everywhere
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3606/rare.c/0_25103_59fba295_XL.jpg

Common citizens
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There are a lot ofsuch billboards:"We were fighting for Russia together!" or"We rescued Russia together"
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A taxi "Islam"
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Chechens like russian national drink "Kvas"
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A limuzin in Grozniy
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Bread from the village Shatoi
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The Mosque
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Women should put on special covers to come in
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[CurlyDarling]

More than 100 journalists were killed in Chechnya. It's a garden and a monument monument to their honour.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3600/rare.c/0_2510f_b7fac10c_XL.jpg

Not all Chechen women wear kerchieves or scarves on their heads. But it's absolutely neccessary to wear them when women are at work. They don't wear trousers or jeans, only skirts.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3603/rare.c/0_2510e_7e60bb90_XL.jpg

Putin Prospect
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[CurlyDarling]

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[Koshka]

Thanks Allahu, Grozny was reconstructed

BUT

"déjà vu" ?

remind old times

http://www.fotosoyuz.ru/preview/600x600-p2owd7/8s/slzdhw/600x600,fs-EGOROV-08,09,Egor-11c_001.jpg?fggcizaq

[CurlyDarling]

Not everything was bad in old times.

[Lucker]

It is arguably even worse now .

[Sarah]

It is arguably even worse now .

Ramon, you should take it at ease - my heart is bleeding every time I see how frustrated and bitter you are. Of course, everything was much better, when we were younger, but believe me - our age has so much to show and to enjoy! I heard one good saying from a lady in Zadrypinsk - If you see the colors fading - visit an ophthalmologist! (must be your source)

[Hoopy]

I don't see any pics apart from the one Bastet posted. :confused:

[tarras bulba]

Ramon, you should take it at ease - my heart is bleeding every time I see how frustrated and bitter you are. Of course, everything was much better, when we were younger, but believe me - our age has so much to show and to enjoy! I heard one good saying from a lady in Zadrypinsk - If you see the colors fading - visit an ophthalmologist! (must be your source)

sarah,

I agree with ramon ..Its looks clean but terrible unreall

zz

[Sarah]

it is photoshop - don't you know???

[Lucker]

Well , if it's a shop I shall not be buying .
Just remember the number of civilians deliberately killed --- 150 000 or more .

[Koshka]

it is photoshop - don't you know???

not
it names stage effect
alike photo in my post

[don_pedro]

More than 100 journalists were killed in Chechnya. It's a garden and a monument monument to their honour.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3600/rare.c/0_2510f_b7fac10c_XL.jpg


A monument to journalists who died in the name of freedom of speech in Chechnya unveiled by Ramzan Kadyrov, the one who's suppressing freedom of speech and inspiring a cult of personality? What a farce! “Mysteriously” most Russian, Chechen and foreign journalists who had courage to openly criticize Mr. Kadyrov have been assassinated. At one point, Kadyrov had been conferred a member of the Union of Russian Journalists - another mockery, before the decision was rescinded following protests from several leading journalists .

[Sarah]

Don Pedro -
like a person with a Russian (or Soviet) background - can you imagine any really democratic government in Chechnya? Even if they are completely and totally separated from Russia? Can you imagine no farce for the nearest 200 years???

[Lucker]

Your point is appreciated but it hardly is the one at issue .

This is a guy who has torture cells under his own palace and where he likes to " keep his hand in "
This is the guy who exercises lions , tigers etc on the Palace lawns and who knows what they are fed .
This is a 100% raving nut case by any standards . This is a guy that treats Putin like his lost Dad and whom Putin uses as his pet psychopath .
Get real .

Still , I bet he likes Abba .

[Sarah]

Ramon, if you were talking to me - I am very real and very realistic. And Kadyrov is also not an issue in this thread. You were shown a rebuilt city, where people live the way they live now. Believe me - this town looks really good these days - it was completely rebuilt and restored, and million of dollars were used for this purpose (though of course half of them were laundered).
Do you want us to build barricades and to kill Kadyrov et al for your satisfaction? No fooking way will I participate in any kind of military action, even if it will be necessary to protect you from Putin and v.v. Plus be real - if any of them disappear - there are thousands of the others staying in the lines to immediately replace them.
The best what you can do for us is to stop threatening here, but to open a shelter for new immigrants, because I am already packing my luggage. Please, send tickets, money to bribe the customs, coordinates and secret pass-word to recognize each other, I will hold a "Times" issue 1962 with a portrait of Khrushchev on the cover page, in case your forget the pass-word.
See ya soon,
Sarah

PS I noticed that all tyrants like Abba

[Koshka]

Ramon, if you were talking to me - I am very real and very realistic. And Kadyrov is also not an issue in this thread. You were shown a rebuilt city, where people live the way they live now. Believe me - this town looks really good these days - it was completely rebuilt and restored, and million of dollars were used for this purpose (though of course half of them were laundered).
Do you want us to build barricades and to kill Kadyrov et al for your satisfaction? No fooking way will I participate in any kind of military action, even if it will be necessary to protect you from Putin and v.v. Plus be real - if any of them disappear - there are thousands of the others staying in the lines to immediately replace them.


I was terrified these photos, they lying and spurious, an artificial gloss under a huge mountain of the dynamite. A gross propaganda.

Ramon is not naive person but he has narrow mental outlook and do not able to understand that most country in the world are not democratic.

And Chechnya is ruled by clans, and Kadyrov a head of most influential chechen clan,
for Chechen do not exist another law only law of high clans,
Kadyrov is bad but has not of alternative

This is a real life

[Yana]

Безумно люблю исламские страны, хоть кроме турции нигде не была, у меня нет знакомых мусульман-кроме муллы из нашей мечети, куда я время от времени езжу, я занимаюсь суфизмом, я счастливее становлюсь с каждым днем, и однажды я соберу таки манатки и уеду на пмж в кувейт =)

[Yana]

Зы но вместо грозного с удовольствием бы посетила Тегеран-безумно красивый город!

[Koshka]

Do you want us to build barricades and to kill Kadyrov et al for your satisfaction? No fooking way will I participate in any kind of military action, even if it will be necessary to protect you from Putin and v.v. Plus be real - if any of them disappear - there are thousands of the others staying in the lines to immediately replace them.
The best what you can do for us is to stop threatening here, but to open a shelter for new immigrants, because I am already packing my luggage. Please, send tickets, money to bribe the customs, coordinates and secret pass-word to recognize each other, I will hold a "Times" issue 1962 with a portrait of Khrushchev on the cover page, in case your forget the pass-word.
See ya soon,
Sarah


Cadabra,
really do not you know,
Ramon plans to go to Moscow soon to direct building of barricades :p

[Lucker]

I was terrified these photos, they lying and spurious, an artificial gloss under a huge mountain of the dynamite. A gross propaganda.

Ramon is not naive person but he has narrow mental outlook and do not able to understand that most country in the world are not democratic.

And Chechnya is ruled by clans, and Kadyrov a head of most influential chechen clan,
for Chechen do not exist another law only law of high clans,
Kadyrov is bad but has not of alternative



With the best will in the world , you are trying to teach me "how to suck eggs ".
As someone who has probably more detail at his finger tips about the Yamadayev Clan than anybody else on this site , your Clan type of remarks are misplaced and unintentionally rude given the Topics I have raised and their obvious underlying detail knowledge .
You sit thousands of miles from Chechnya with totally restricted information dished out to you and then dare to rubbish someone who also lives a long way away but has information sources far superior and a system which sends in internationally respected reporters to get uninfluenced facts who produce reports which are not edited or subject to official clearance and sanction .
I sometimes find your smugness rather sad for collectively it seems you will do anything possible to avoid facing facts and causes .
At least the majority of English people react with horror and attempted honesty when they realise they have a monster on their doorstep --- Mugabe in Zimbabwe , as an example . And they try to force issues rather than giving in .

Kadyrov makes Mugabe look like a spoilt brat in comparison yet this monster runs Chechnya specifically for Russia because Putin wanted it that way and , in your turn , you want Russia to be run by a guy like your present Prime Minister .
A good case can actually be made out for prosecution of Putin for war crimes when you realise what he has done in Chechnya since organising the bombing spree in Russia by his Security Forces in 1999 to unite the population against Chechens and get himself elected .
By the same token you might want to criticise us for allowing Blair to take us into Iraq .
But we are now setting up a third review of this total matter and refuse to share Blair's responsibilty until the full truth is divulged . We were close to open rebellion only a few weeks ago because the Government wanted the review held privately . We are now winning the battle for a totally independent , public hearing and Blair himself will be forced to be interrogated and everybody else who was part of that process .
That's the difference .

[Koshka]

With the best will in the world , you are trying to teach me "how to suck eggs ".
As someone who has probably more detail at his finger tips about the Yamadayev Clan than anybody else on this site , your Clan type of remarks are misplaced and unintentionally rude given the Topics I have raised and their obvious underlying detail knowledge .
You sit thousands of miles from Chechnya with totally restricted information dished out to you and then dare to rubbish someone who also lives a long way away but has information sources far superior and a system which sends in internationally respected reporters to get uninfluenced facts who produce reports which are not edited or subject to official clearance and sanction .
I sometimes find your smugness rather sad for collectively it seems you will do anything possible to avoid facing facts and causes .
At least the majority of English people react with horror and attempted honesty when they realise they have a monster on their doorstep --- Mugabe in Zimbabwe , as an example . And they try to force issues rather than giving in .

Kadyrov makes Mugabe look like a spoilt brat in comparison yet this monster runs Chechnya specifically for Russia because Putin wanted it that way and , in your turn , you want Russia to be run by a guy like your present Prime Minister .
A good case can actually be made out for prosecution of Putin for war crimes when you realise what he has done in Chechnya since organising the bombing spree in Russia by his Security Forces in 1999 to unite the population against Chechens and get himself elected .By the same token you might want to criticise us for allowing Blair to take us into Iraq .
But we are now setting up a third review of this total matter and refuse to share Blair's responsibilty until the full truth is divulged . We were close to open rebellion only a few weeks ago because the Government wanted the review held privately . We are now winning the battle for a totally independent , public hearing and Blair himself will be forced to be interrogated and everybody else who was part of that process .
That's the difference .

i hope suggestion of cadabra is correct

Ramon, if you were talking to me - I am very real and very realistic. And Kadyrov is also not an issue in this thread. You were shown a rebuilt city, where people live the way they live now. Believe me - this town looks really good these days - it was completely rebuilt and restored, and million of dollars were used for this purpose (though of course half of them were laundered).
Do you want us to build barricades and to kill Kadyrov et al for your satisfaction? No fooking way will I participate in any kind of military action, even if it will be necessary to protect you from Putin and v.v. Plus be real - if any of them disappear - there are thousands of the others staying in the lines to immediately replace them.
The best what you can do for us is to stop threatening here, but to open a shelter for new immigrants, because I am already packing my luggage. Please, send tickets, money to bribe the customs, coordinates and secret pass-word to recognize each other, I will hold a "Times" issue 1962 with a portrait of Khrushchev on the cover page, in case your forget the pass-word.
See ya soon,
Sarah

PS I noticed that all tyrants like Abba
and you plans to open a shelter for new immigrants
i will be wait your invitation

[Koshka]

With the best will in the world , you are trying to teach me "how to suck eggs ".
As someone who has probably more detail at his finger tips about the Yamadayev Clan than anybody else on this site , your Clan type of remarks are misplaced and unintentionally rude given the Topics I have raised and their obvious underlying detail knowledge .
blah...blah...blah .
ramon you are arrogant person :eek:
you never read what i write

read with attention

I was terrified these photos, they lying and spurious, an artificial gloss under a huge mountain of the dynamite. A gross propaganda.

This is a real life

[Sarah]

Kosh - he is blind, deaf and remote - do not waste your time and stop watering this Narcissus - he is self-contained.

[CurlyDarling]

No, the reason isn't in Ramon. By the way, he writes very interesting things. Thank you, wise Ra! :hail: :hail: :hail:
I can't read what Kosh is writing either. What Russian province this English is? :music:

[Koshka]

Kosh - he is blind, deaf and remote - do not waste your time and stop watering this Narcissus - he is self-contained.
жалко, засохнет ведь

[Koshka]

No, the reason isn't in Ramon. By the way, he writes very interesting things. Thank you, wise Ra! :hail: :hail: :hail:
I can't read what Kosh is writing either. What Russian province this English is? :music:
злобная бабушка / malicious lady

[Koshka]

No, the reason isn't in Ramon. By the way, he writes very interesting things.

of course!!!

I always repeat this!!! ;)

[CurlyDarling]

Я не злобная, Ольга, тем более не бабушка. А вот ты,похоже, да. Мы ведь не всегда с Альберто в штыковую друг на друга ходили. Так что закрой ротик, Киска!
Я вот дивлюсь, неужто так трудно выучить одно-единственное правило построения английского предложения? Одно-единственное! Даже Тарасик его усвоил. Он слова коверкает, но пишет, в основном, правильно, хотя и стал тут посмешищем из-за своего Бельгийско-Английского.
Ты бы не корчила из себя малышку в своем-то возрасте и при своем-то семейном положении, а взялась за учебник Английского для 5 класса, хоть того же Старкова, большее не потянешь.
Тут многие девушки начинали с нуля, но посмотри. как хорошо они сейчас пишут. что Катя-Новел, что Света-Крушик. Это же был кошмар вроде твоего , а теперь читаешь и радуешься за барышень. не зря время перед компом просиживали.
Злобная, говоришь? Ладно, договорились, лично по отношению к тебе стану злобной. держись! Я предупредила. Значит, ты вооружена. Уси-пуси!

Ladies and gentlemen, sorry for off top. Kosh needed spanking.

[Sarah]

Sorry for us being again cackling witches and Squigglers,
but
это не справедливо, Маринуся. У нас у всех английский не родной и как бы лихо мы им не крутили - роднее от этого он не станет. Ольга молодец, что не комплексует по-поводу способов выражения своих мыслей - я лично все подобные усилия одобряю. А как же иначе можно разговориться?
Олик, обзывать людей "злобной бабушкой" сродни плохому вкусу и отсутствию манер, а твой любимый мужчина жуть как этого не любит. Я думаю, он может простить дружбу с Кадыровым, родство с Путиным, но никак не признаки базарного воспитания.

Щас разозлите меня хорошенько и я вам покажу высший пилотаж рыночной экономики - а то самой уже надоедает в Ледях сидеть - все время назад в б...и тянет...

Давайте сделаем вид, что инцидент исчерпан, и вернемся к нашему любимому развлечению, нашему вдохновителю и идеалу - Рамону.
Уж полночь близиться, а РАмона все нет...
Куда? Куда ты удалился???

[Koshka]

As someone who has probably more detail at his finger tips about the Yamadayev Clan than anybody else on this site .

do you think these people are not another monsters?

P.S. I do not offer you the new point at issue, I only ask you opinion

[tarras bulba]

to be reall ?

I claim that 99 % of russian and ukranians have no smallest idea whats a democracy.

and If they have one than just forget the concept of their democracy.

zz

[Koshka]

to be reall ?

I claim that 99 % of russian and ukranians have no smallest idea whats a democracy.

and If they have one than just forget the concept of their democracy.

zz

you have forgotten to add they have never live in democratic states and i doubt they will live in the near future.

[Sarah]

Bulbik -
no ladies with plastic bags this week? No unexpected Belorussian auditors in Brussels??? Political topics do not suit you...

[tarras bulba]

dear sarah,

women thats politics and russian women that oposition. So if it suits me or not still I havent seen one of you having a decent comment about any of your oposition members neither suport one of them.. so what suits you?? putin in the french sence of the word.
I ask if in your schools which all of you claim from russian your education is the best and top....Did you ever got an execise of critical thinking about world mather wich isnt collorred trough your flags?

zz

and by the way willy is fine ....:peace:

[Sarah]

Bublik,
none of you will see any satisfying comment, because you like to listen to yourself only (and your comment about our education is just another proof of it). The deaf will never hear, but it is ok - we are not pretending to be the voice of one crying in the wilderness, so let be it. I am quite happy to know that you are somewhere around, with your Willy in good health and great mood.
As for the mather of your matter - I like your manner of talking to us, simple Mambers. Do not forget to put your signatuur every time you make a comment.
From Sarah with love,
Kisses

[tarras bulba]

sarah bernard,

next times you adresses an isue to me send me an answer with just your red string on photo .....


dr strangelove

[Sarah]

Bublik,
you are an aesthete, but believe me - i do not need a red string to strangle you - I will do it with my hands! But you are in danger, only if you continue to expect that the local ladies support political conversations here (what a stupid idea initially - to argue about politics with women). Local GG men made almost all girls talk politics here - and you have guts to criticize Russian men after all...

[tarras bulba]

and you have guts to criticize Russian men after all...


thoose are baby faces.


faceoff

[Sarah]

Bublik -
you are very good and brief in subjects like "first night" - go there, Honey, and wait for different advices - you need all of them.