The liberal left The Democrats...

[brown-raider]

Just thought I would point out who the left (Democrats) is in this country U.S.A, because it would be interesting to know if the same liberal left exists and stands for the same things they stand in thier country as they do here in our country,,,
The left is: Pro abortion. Pro homosexual rights including gay marriage. In favor of big government, to take care of some people from the cradle to the grave at the expense of the working people.
On the Palestinian-Israeli question they are Pro Palestinian.
They are for down sizing the military or doing away with it all together...
They are anti-Christian.
So is the left the same in your country?

[Calgary1966]

Just thought I would point out who the left (Democrats) is in this country U.S.A, because it would be interesting to know if the same liberal left exists and stands for the same things they stand in thier country as they do here in our country,,,
The left is: Pro abortion. Pro homosexual rights including gay marriage. In favor of big government, to take care of some people from the cradle to the grave at the expense of the working people.
On the Palestinian-Israeli question they are Pro Palestinian.
They are for down sizing the military or doing away with it all together...
They are anti-Christian.
So is the left the same in your country?


Yeah...pretty much...commie bastards


:faint:

[1amongmany]

A Democrat is anti-Christian???

this is the problem with labels.......

[brown-raider]

tHE aclu IS a big contributer to the Democratic party which is common knowledge that they have fought to remove anything Christian from any public buildings,prayer in the school ect.. thats not my fault, the ACLU spnsors the Democratic partyA Democrat is anti-Christian???
The ACLU. NAMBLA, and the Democratic Party attacked The boy Scouts of America for not allowing Gay Scoutmasters....
I'm not saying all Democrats are anti-Christian, I am saying the Democratic Party as a whole is anti-Christian...it's not my fault the good people are not aware of what their party stands for...(if you don't know who NAMBLA is they are a group of pedephiles who believe men and boys should be allowed to engage in sex freely, in other words they are sick S.O.B's that want access to little boys including the scouts, of course they want to be scoutmasters..
this is the problem with labels.......

[1amongmany]

very cute, you made it look like I said that....you are smarter than I thought you were



so you are saying that 'seperation of church and state' as noted in the US constitution means anti-christian?

[Voobrazheniye]

A Democrat is anti-Christian???

this is the problem with labels.......

Democrats as a whole are not necessarily anti-Christian, but the far left certainly is. Really, they are anti-religion, but they cozy up to Islam (for now) or speak well of Buddhism or paganism only to be opposite of Christianity. It is interesting, for example, how they will jump all over any perceived Christian intolerance of homosexuality, but are silent about how homosexuals are treated by the Islamic faith.

Their real religion is the state.

[1amongmany]

that was the most vague thing I have ever read from you...I always thought you had more substance to your thoughts....I'm sorry but you make no sense, can you clarify this please

[fbibob]

so you are saying that 'seperation of church and state' as noted in the US constitution means anti-christian?

Maybe you know this, maybe you do not.

Hopefully you are just guilty of a mis-quote.

But 'separation of church and state' is NOT in the Constitution. Anywhere.

Period.

The Constitution says the government may not establish a state religion. That is all that it says.

Abraham Lincoln coined the phrase separation of church and state (actually, he said that ('there is a wall separating church and state') in an informal letter to a church that was afraid a rival church would be declared the official state church and become dominant. This is the only place this term was ever used in early US history, and is not codified into law by the Constitution.

[zoroooo]

Maybe you know this, maybe you do not.

Hopefully you are just guilty of a mis-quote.

But 'separation of church and state' is NOT in the Constitution. Anywhere.

Period.

The Constitution says the government may not establish a state religion. That is all that it says.

Abraham Lincoln coined the phrase separation of church and state (actually, he said that ('there is a wall separating church and state') in an informal letter to a church that was afraid a rival church would be declared the official state church and become dominant. This is the only place this term was ever used in early US history, and is not codified into law by the Constitution.

lol in French we call your statement "une pirouette" see ballet etc.

[huney]

The Constitution says the government may not establish a state religion. That is all that it says.


Your comment is true, but the 1st Amendment to the Constitution goes further...

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. '

This means that Congress may neither support nor suppress the practice of religion, nor interfere in any way.

Interestingly it does not address the actions of either the executive or judicial branches of government. It is possible, but unlikely, that through executive order or judicial interpretation that some infringement of the practice of religion could occur. It is possible to argue that the Department of Homeland Security could be accused of interfering in the exercise of religion, but doing so without violating the 1st Amendment as it is written.

[1amongmany]

Maybe you know this, maybe you do not.

Hopefully you are just guilty of a mis-quote.

But 'separation of church and state' is NOT in the Constitution. Anywhere.

Period.

The Constitution says the government may not establish a state religion. That is all that it says.

Abraham Lincoln coined the phrase separation of church and state (actually, he said that ('there is a wall separating church and state') in an informal letter to a church that was afraid a rival church would be declared the official state church and become dominant. This is the only place this term was ever used in early US history, and is not codified into law by the Constitution.

you are right bob, I was only trying to sread the rhetoric a little thicker across the pages of GG.... but arguable that was the intension of some of the writers of the constitution because it was Jefferson (a main author of the constitution) that later wrote a letter about a "wall of seperation between church and state" which led to the Establishment Clause

[huney]

you are right bob, I was only trying to sread the rhetoric a little thicker across the pages of GG.... but arguable that was the intension of some of the writers of the constitution because it was Jefferson (a main author of the constitution) that later wrote a letter about a "wall of seperation between church and state" which led to the Establishment Clause

Pardon, Jefferson was not a main author of the Constitution. He was in France at the time of the Constitutional Convention. James Madison was the primary author of the Constitution. Jefferson did have a great deal to do with the later composition and incorporation of the Bill of Rights (the first ten amendments) and felt very strongly that religion was a strictly personal matter and no business of government at any level, federal, state, or local.

[fbibob]

you are right bob, I was only trying to sread the rhetoric a little thicker across the pages of GG.... but arguable that was the intension of some of the writers of the constitution because it was Jefferson (a main author of the constitution) that later wrote a letter about a "wall of seperation between church and state" which led to the Establishment Clause


True; my correction stands corrected. But it is one of my hot buttons because people claim it is in the constitution and nobody seems to be informed enough to correct them.

[RiverRock]

Your comment is true, but the 1st Amendment to the Constitution goes further...

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. '

To me that means the government has no right to tell anyone, business, school public or otherwise that they can not practice there religion. Including having prayer in school, or teaching evolution as the THEORY that it is. It is not within the powers granted to the federal government.